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1Ranking Chambers - Balancing Bucket8.54545454545451.4686813110367
2Cheap Trick Island - Superglue8.51.2339883600453
3Traditionality - Whoopie Cushion8.36363636363641.5534552264214
3Goblin Battle - Balancing Bucket8.36363636363641.9198829165403
5The Cheap Place - Superglue7.72727272727272.0266815281462
6Water and Fire - Superglue7.40909090909092.2695432241491
7Flawlessly consistent logic - Superglue7.36363636363641.7721444263289
7Cheap Trick Password - Whoopie Cushion7.36363636363642.206302018093
9Patchwork Quilt - Superglue7.18181818181822.2286637585693
10The Gift of Flight - Balancing Bucket7.09090909090912.3337268459988
11Zs Cheap Trick 1 - Whoopie Cushion6.77272727272732.2142476288761
12A cheap present - Whoopie Cushion6.72727272727272.2397609081373
13CheapTrickJatopian - Balancing Bucket6.68181818181822.4933796639823
14Annoying Tricks - Whoopie Cushion6.52.4448461561564
15Cheap Clip Trick - Superglue6.45454545454552.3301828396321
16Color Dilemma v3 - Balancing Bucket6.40909090909092.4983465606657
17Chuck the Plant - Whoopie Cushion6.13636363636362.8491698080391
18Markedly Unfair - Balancing Bucket5.95454545454552.4022200475861
A cheap present - Whoopie Cushion
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Average Vote 6.7272727272727
Standard Deviation 2.2397609081373

Annoying Tricks - Whoopie Cushion
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Average Vote 6.5
Standard Deviation 2.4448461561564

Cheap Clip Trick - Superglue
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Average Vote 6.4545454545455
Standard Deviation 2.3301828396321

Cheap Trick Island - Superglue
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Average Vote 8.5
Standard Deviation 1.2339883600453

Cheap Trick Password - Whoopie Cushion
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Average Vote 7.3636363636364
Standard Deviation 2.206302018093

Chuck the Plant - Whoopie Cushion
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Average Vote 6.1363636363636
Standard Deviation 2.8491698080391

Color Dilemma v3 - Balancing Bucket
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Average Vote 6.4090909090909
Standard Deviation 2.4983465606657

CheapTrickJatopian - Balancing Bucket
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Average Vote 6.6818181818182
Standard Deviation 2.4933796639823

Flawlessly consistent logic - Superglue
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Average Vote 7.3636363636364
Standard Deviation 1.7721444263289

Goblin Battle - Balancing Bucket
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Average Vote 8.3636363636364
Standard Deviation 1.9198829165403

Markedly Unfair - Balancing Bucket
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Average Vote 5.9545454545455
Standard Deviation 2.4022200475861

Patchwork Quilt - Superglue
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Average Vote 7.1818181818182
Standard Deviation 2.2286637585693

Ranking Chambers - Balancing Bucket
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Average Vote 8.5454545454545
Standard Deviation 1.4686813110367

The Cheap Place - Superglue
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Average Vote 7.7272727272727
Standard Deviation 2.0266815281462

The Gift of Flight - Balancing Bucket
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Average Vote 7.0909090909091
Standard Deviation 2.3337268459988

Traditionality - Whoopie Cushion
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Average Vote 8.3636363636364
Standard Deviation 1.5534552264214

Water and Fire - Superglue
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Average Vote 7.4090909090909
Standard Deviation 2.2695432241491

Zs Cheap Trick 1 - Whoopie Cushion
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Average Vote 6.7727272727273
Standard Deviation 2.2142476288761
Total Votes 33 100%
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Here's all the entries which made it to the finals.

Since The Cramp didn't do it, I'm on it like Superglue... or whatever was in the Balancing Bucket... or... um... fart noises?

I'm kinda disappointed that "Possibly Impossible" wasn't in here. I guess there were just too many other good entries.

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I'm kinda disappointed that "Possibly Impossible" wasn't in here. I guess there were just too many other good entries.
I'm kinda surprised that both of mine are in here. Given that nothing here has an average below 6-point-something at this point, I think it's safe to say that there are, in fact, a whole lot of good entries. (I don't think I gave anything in this round a vote below 5.)
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Yeah, I have to say that these are the best of the lot, for the most part. There was one or two that I liked that didn't make it, and a couple that I didn't like that made it. (I did have to rate one hold below a six...but most of my ratings were higher.)

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I'm kinda disappointed that "Possibly Impossible" wasn't in here. I guess there were just too many other good entries.

Me too ;) But it didn't do too bad considering it is only my second attempt at architecture.

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I finally got to vote. I voted the same as I had originally except I gave the ones I had given [9] nines to [10] tens since I was not among them. I was surprised some make such high scores but then I am often surprised. I guess that is why I can not get high scores myself.

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These were the ones I voted high in the first group but they didn't make it to this final round:

Cheap cheap cheap - this is good. I like mazes the way out was a good trick. Too often architects make the mistake of having walls that look like they go some where when they don't [9]

Hide and Seek - this was fun and a good trick - while i didn't know exactly why not to use the token it seem like a good idea. [9]

Possibly impossible - that was fun - I got lazy and looked at hints but I was on the right track before that. secondary stairs land you in right place good trick [9]

Island hopping_300 - this was fun - becoming a water skipper wasn't that hard to find [9]



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Ouch, harsh (and possibly premature?)
Anyway, on the topic of banana peels...

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I guess people are just going to forget there was a contest that ended already ;)

 1. 8.54 - Ranking Chambers (larrymurk)
 2. 8.5  - Cheap Trick Island (Mikko)
 3. 8.36 - Goblin Battle (Jacob)
 3. 8.36 - Traditionality (Doom)
 5. 7.72 - The Cheap Place (RuAdam)
 6. 7.41 - Water and Fire (Dolan42)
 7. 7.36 - Cheap Trick Password (Tahnan)
 7. 7.36 - Flawlessly consistent logic (Jacob)
 9. 7.18 - Patchwork Quilt (Jutt)
10. 7.09 - The Gift of Flight (Jacob)
11. 6.77 - Zs Cheap Trick (Zophos)
12. 6.72 - A cheap present (Jutt)
13. 6.68 - CheapTrickJatopian (Jatopian)
14. 6.5  - Annoying Tricks (Chaco)
15. 6.45 - Cheap Clip Trick (Tahnan)
16. 6.41 - Color Dilemma v3 (jdyer)
17. 6.14 - Chuck the Plant (BoyBlue)
18. 5.95 - Markedly Unfair (Banjooie)

I played most of the early entries, but stopped at some point because I was getting so much behind. Didn't vote in the first leagues at all, but took the time to play through the finals. Not bad, several of the entries were pretty nice. My personal favourites were "A Cheap Trick Island" for the brilliant design (A real pity it was so obvious. I got it in *literally* 2 seconds from beginning (just luck?). Different placement of walls and other objects could've improved this a little further, I think), and "A Cheap Trick Password" (one of the few entries that weren't very obvious, and still didn't feel unfair)
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Yay larry! :)
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Yay, Larrymurk, also.
Shouldn't somebody official be doing a poll for the tie between me and Doom? Or I don't mind sharing the 25 points.
I get my 8-timer prize regardless :)

Favourite rooms: Ranking chambers - very nice little trick, the whole room was set up so you'd do things sequentially and that's what throws you. Extra kudos for being one of the non-scripted rooms, as was...
Traditionality - Neat that this was a well known trick, but it was hidden well. Didn't think to try that.
Cheap Trick Island - Excellent. But agree with Doom's comments; I also completed this too quickly.
Water and Fire - Really liked this one. It's kind of deducible in that you want to get in there one move earlier, but I still had to use the solution.
Color Dilemma - Really liked this. Surprised it didn't do better. Very clever - even though I myself had created a room with the same solution, it didn't even occur to me that it was the solution!

Cheap Trick Password and Patchwork Quilt were nice rooms, but I didn't really see how they were cheap tricks. (Same for a few of the non-finalists)

What didn't you understand about my rooms Techant?

I feel that if someone's going to make a compilation of these rooms the solutions should be removed, so that they pose some kind of challenge. Most of the finalist rooms are deducible and don't rely on random scripting.

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7th in a crowd like that is all I could ask for. You didn't think it was a cheap trick, Jacob?
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I feel that if someone's going to make a compilation of these rooms the solutions should be removed, so that they pose some kind of challenge. Most of the finalist rooms are deducible and don't rely on random scripting.



Besides, there would be Hints and Solutions and the existing discussion threads to look at.

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7th in a crowd like that is all I could ask for. You didn't think it was a cheap trick, Jacob?


Maybe my experience of your hold was spoiled by reading the room description right off the bat. I read it, read the scroll, entered the password and left. So I was kind of expecting that to be the wrong thing to do (that the password was actually something entirely different that fit the criteria), and *that* would have been the cheap trick. As it was, I felt you were being quite open with me the whole time.

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Yeah, first DROD contest I've won!

I really liked Pinnacle's Abyss, Jacob's room w/ the wraithwing, and Doom's room with the Slayer.

I should add that everyone put in a great effort.

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7th in a crowd like that is all I could ask for. You didn't think it was a cheap trick, Jacob?


Maybe my experience of your hold was spoiled by reading the room description right off the bat. I read it, read the scroll, entered the password and left. So I was kind of expecting that to be the wrong thing to do (that the password was actually something entirely different that fit the criteria), and *that* would have been the cheap trick. As it was, I felt you were being quite open with me the whole time.
Oh, well, sure, if you do it right, there's nothing cheap to it. :-) I gather that some people, at least, didn't know how to find the password, and perhaps for them the trick was cheaper.
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Eh, not bad for a first contest, especially considering I have very little architectural experience.

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Color Dilemma - Really liked this. Surprised it didn't do better. Very clever - even though I myself had created a room with the same solution, it didn't even occur to me that it was the solution!


Aw, thanks! I admit I had some head slapping when I uploaded and saw your entry immediately above mine use the same (well, a very close) concept.

I love how the tar was used in yours; using "well, they must be there for *some* reason" logic it was possible to suss out the puzzle.

As far as ranking goes, based on other comments I think some people couldn't figure it out even with the hints. Also, there was still an extra solution in there. (I'll fix it for the theoretical compilation hold.)

I was very fond of Cheap Trick Password, because it nailed me with the biggest "doh!" reaction of the contest. (Jacob, I take it you *do* read the hold descriptions.) Anything that's a meta-trick really does count as cheap.
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Congrats to the four prize winners; some exellent entries we have there. Those four were also my favorite entries in this contest, and I'm glad the voters agreed.

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jdyer wrote: Also, there was still an extra solution in there. (I'll fix it for the theoretical compilation hold.)
Shame about that. It was the main reason I gave your entry a lower vote. Otherwise it was quite a good trick.

finally, I am more than pleased that both of my entries made it to the finals.

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