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RankEntryAverageStandard Deviation
1Suicide is easy.8.35714285714292.6620921647977
2If I'm going to die7.64285714285711.4931817828833
3misere mission7.57142857142862.128523489393
4Chaco's safe hold7.28571428571431.4846149779162
5Beethroccalyse71
6Beethro Decides to Kill Himself5.35714285714292.0215673854407
7Suicidal Beethro51.8516401995451
8June Contest hold VIPCOOL4.92857142857142.1535447759545
Beethro Decides to Kill Himself
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Average Vote 5.3571428571429
Standard Deviation 2.0215673854407

Beethroccalyse
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Average Vote 7
Standard Deviation 1

Chaco's safe hold
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Average Vote 7.2857142857143
Standard Deviation 1.4846149779162

If I'm going to die
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Average Vote 7.6428571428571
Standard Deviation 1.4931817828833

June Contest hold VIPCOOL
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Average Vote 4.9285714285714
Standard Deviation 2.1535447759545

misere mission
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Average Vote 7.5714285714286
Standard Deviation 2.128523489393

Suicidal Beethro
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Average Vote 5
Standard Deviation 1.8516401995451

Suicide is easy.
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Average Vote 8.3571428571429
Standard Deviation 2.6620921647977
Total Votes 19 100%
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Ok, poll time. If you don't see the zip attached to this post, then you've seen this post before I could edit and attach it.

As for voting, consider the holds like you would judge any hold, on enjoyment mostly, style and presentation also helps. Remember to vote 10 for your entries, and a fair score for the others.

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06-28-2009 at 08:27 AM
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If you don't see the zip attached to this post, then you've seen this post before I could edit and attach it.



Err, why do you have to post and then edit it to attach?
I thought anybody (I can) could just attach it while they were making it for the first time.
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Because polls aren't setup that you can attach a file, but when you edit the post, it's a normal post, thus you can add one.

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I ran through all the entries pretty quickly and rated them all.

Attached are my notes on all the entries. There's plenty of spoilers for room solutions, so I'd recommend playing all the entries first and then looking at my notes.

I saw both good entries and brilliant entries. Overall I think there's plenty of puzzle potential in this theme of preventing Beethro from killing himself, and I think there are some neat puzzles here. Good job everyone :)

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Comments on the holds. All in all, a neat if rather difficult idea for a contest; I wish I had had the time to enter something myself.
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Ok, here are my thoughts about the entries, I hope no one will hold any hard feeling for me, I tried to be as objectively subjective as possible :).
My personal favorite is "Suicide is Easy". Please restrain from reading before voting or getting yourself ready to vote. I slightly helped myself in straightening out the votes by looking at chaco's input (really, only very slightly).
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Oh well, now that I have this done, it's time to vote for The Ugly ones :).

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Some thoughts:

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Whoah. Since when does everyone write their opinions (including hints and solutions) while a contest is still going on? I remember when people used to stick time delays on their comments, or wait til the contest was over.

Jatopian, you're missing Techant's hold: Beethro decides to kill himself. You know that it's possible to kill yourself in multiple rooms in most of the entries (your comment on brian_s's hold suggests otherwise). Also, you may want to read Chaco's comments for some hints. Do you need hints for my entry?

And since when did Suicidal Beethro become Suidical?

I enjoyed this contest, and will probably post some comments in a couple of days.

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Whoah. Since when does everyone write their opinions (including hints and solutions) while a contest is still going on? I remember when people used to stick time delays on their comments, or wait til the contest was over.
oh man I remember that too, good times ...Stop making me feel old!

But seriously, I think if people don't want to be influenced or spoiled, they have only to restrain themselves.
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You know that it's possible to kill yourself in multiple rooms in most of the entries (your comment on brian_s's hold suggests otherwise).
Actually, I didn't gather that from the rules thread at all. :\
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Do you need hints for my entry?
yes please :<

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I was going to post under an untiltime, but since no one else had, I, er, gave into peer pressure. My main justification in this case was that the goal in some of these rooms might not be as obvious as in others--so I noted for instance which rooms I couldn't manage to get killed in (in case you were supposed to be able to) and, in some cases, places that I could (in case you weren't supposed to be able to).

At this point, I think the proverbial barn door is open, but I also think that returning to untiltime-hiding in the future would be a good idea.
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I think there are only a couple of rooms throughout all the entries where you can't kill yourself. The contest did not specify that you HAD to be able to die in every room, but I don't entirely see the point of a room where you can't die, outside of storyline purposes.

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My entry was more about the humor of the project as I could not see a plot line where Beethro wanted to kill himself. My twist was to make it a story instead but I guess my score shows that you wanted hard rooms instead. That is fine I had fun.

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And now that voting's over, I'm really curious about that "1" vote on Suicide is easy.. So yeah, what's up with that?

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As far as a full list of deaths go:
Chaco's Safe Hold 2S

Oh, man, that's just clever.

I second Dischorran's request for the person who gave "Suicide is Easy" a 1 to offer some commentary on the hold. Tastes are bound to differ, but the opinion there varies quite sharply from the average, which makes me curious.
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Right, well it appears that nobody's stolen my thunder for once (then again, I probably was a little late getting around to them)
Anyway, it appears that BoyBlue with misere mission got 7.57, earning him 3rd place, brian_s with If I'm going to die got 7.64, earning him 2nd place, and Jacob with Suicide is easy got 8.35, earning him first place. And he also, oddly enough, got the only 1 vote.

Congratulations Jacob, go directly to the prize pile, do not pass go, do not collect $200.

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I'm suprised I got second! :) I just thought this was a neat idea for a contest and just happened to have a few ideas.
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This was a relatively difficult contest, in my opinion. Hard to figure out how to approach it. It was interesting to see what people came up with.

I wanted to make rooms that wouldn't translate into normal DROD puzzles, but that's practically impossible -- DROD is too flexible. In three of my rooms, I just tried to make puzzles that were simpler to implement "Karoshi"-style.

My fourth room was the wubba-role room. The only reason I kept it was for the idea of having four swords stuck in you and still being unable to die. (That, and I didn't really have any other ideas.)

I guess the other main strategy one could use in this contest was to rely on story on humor. Perhaps that was the best strategy. But the limit of four rooms makes that challenging. It's also unfortunate that you can't make anything interesting happen when the player succeeds in his goal.
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