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You know how when stairs are being placed in the editor, it automatically tries to surround it with wall and floor in a certain pattern, and it throws a tantrum if it can't, so we have to work around it gingerly? This upsets me greatly, and I can't be the only one. Why should stairs have a specific pattern of wall and floor around them? Why should we have to work extra hard to have our stairs lead down into a pit, or have them in a non-rectangular shape? Could we please have stair placing place only stairs, square by square, and nothing else?

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12-01-2007 at 06:45 PM
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I hereby stamp this request with a big, green YES!

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12-01-2007 at 08:03 PM
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I agree. There have been several threads complaining about (for instance) KDD Level 1's stair placement and how to obtain it, and I think it would be great to make it easier to place non-wall-bounded staircases, for things such as... well... staircases in aboveground buildings.

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12-01-2007 at 08:24 PM
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I like it, though there is the slight issue of multiple staircases being placed next to each other.
12-04-2007 at 07:22 AM
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BDR wrote:
I like it, though there is the slight issue of multiple staircases being placed next to each other.

More like a cheap trick :)

And it's not as though they were being stopped by the current method anyway - it just takes longer, as you have to copy and paste staircase tiles, then delete walls.

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12-04-2007 at 11:00 AM
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Jatopian wrote:
Could we please have stair placing place only stairs, square by square, and nothing else?

oh "yes please" to this one! :thumbsup
I have found placing stairs a problem in the little bit of building I've done. They can end up spoiling the look of floor pictures and they can't be made to go round corners, or across a room, never mind turn as a spiral stair would.
I would very much like stairs to be more versatile. I would like damp rugged stairs to go down into cellars and broad grand stairs to approach throne rooms and steep twisting stairs to go up into turrets and narrow ricketty stairs to go in secret ways to unexpected places. I would like stairs that project from walls and stairs with arches under them (where monsters could hide) and stairs with oak bannisters and stairs with marble ballustrades; stairs with rope railings and stairs with carpets and tapestries draped over them and . . .

ummm, have I got carried away again? :unsure
ok, I'll just go and sit quietly over here :~(

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12-05-2007 at 06:31 PM
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Isn't that a poet's job? To get carried away and write about it :D ?
12-05-2007 at 06:50 PM
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Also for aesthetic reasons (mainly just for symmetry), I'd quite like some stairs that face left and right.

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12-05-2007 at 07:44 PM
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Elfstone wrote:
I would very much like stairs to be more versatile. I would like damp rugged stairs to go down into cellars and broad grand stairs to approach throne rooms and steep twisting stairs to go up into turrets and narrow ricketty stairs to go in secret ways to unexpected places. I would like stairs that project from walls and stairs with arches under them (where monsters could hide) and stairs with oak bannisters and stairs with marble ballustrades; stairs with rope railings and stairs with carpets and tapestries draped over them and . . .
Seconded. QFE. Whatever other form of saying 'yes that's a wonderful idea' I need to attach.

I particularly like the hidey-hole for monsters. That's a nice touch.

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12-06-2007 at 03:45 PM
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Jacob wrote:
Also for aesthetic reasons (mainly just for symmetry), I'd quite like some stairs that face left and right.

I'd agree with this one. If I may make a suggestion? With Erik's permission, we could easily hack up some left/right facing stair tiles from the existing ones. We'd have to use scripting to get the level ending properly (perhaps a mini cutscene where Beethro descends the stairs first), but then we'd have left/right stairs without so much of a problem.

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12-06-2007 at 04:34 PM
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Yeah, but left/right stairs should not have to be scripted.

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12-06-2007 at 09:05 PM
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Here's an idea:

Instead of 4 different types of stairs in all directions, we can make it only one type, and have it rotate-able in the editor, the way tunnels do it.

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Exactly.

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12-06-2007 at 09:21 PM
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At the risk of derailing my own thread, I think the solution would be to implement "image stairs" in the same way as image floor/pit/water/wall, and left/right stairs. And get rid of the automatic wall/floor bit as I said in the OP.

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Jatopian wrote:
Could we please have stair placing place only stairs, square by square, and nothing else?
Changing stair plotting behavior to this in the 5.0 room editor.

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