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Of course, now that I posted that, I went back and figured it out.
On to the dreaded 37.
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Of course, now that I posted that, I went back and figured it out.


That is a very popular thing to do on this forum ;)

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I solved 49 today. One more to go. It even says (LAST) at top now.

:) & :?

EDIT: It actually says just (LAST) on top when you're on level 50. Oops.

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Of course, now that I posted that, I went back and figured it out.
On to the dreaded 37.

It's called PoP, the Power of Posting ;)
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Still stuck on 43, and I am asking for help. Specifically, am I right assuming that:
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Still stuck on 43, and I am asking for help. Specifically, am I right assuming that:
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sorry ;)

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Ahh. Add me to the list of those who have finally completed the game! The last puzzle was great. :D

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I beat the last level too. I'm happy. It was a good game.

It turns out you can quite easily edit the levels, even though there is no official facility for it. This could be used to make our own level set for players who've finished the official puzzles. I must bow out of this personally, not being willing to coordinate or take part in it any way. (Other commitments. Sorry.)

However, I will describe how to do it. Here is the explanation and a suggested program to use for people who don't have experience with this kind of a thing. Let me reassure you: you don't need to be a programming wizard to make this work. If you managed to complete the game, this will be much easier :)

You will naturally make backups of all the level files first before editing any of them.

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Please do complete the game legitimately before starting to edit the levels. It's the proper thing to do :) :) :)

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It turns out you can quite easily edit the levels


If there is an interest I can quickly piece a simple level editor :). Really, it would be less than an hour of work*.

Other than that arrrr, level 27! Where are you trick? Where?

* Obviously "An hour" in mouth of a programmer can easily mean "One day of work but sure, I don't really have anything better to do so let me fix it up"

Edit: HA! Viva la PoP! On to level 28

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Thanks for the hint, Rheb. Finally got #43. Not sure I ever would have thought of the solution I ended up using without that push.

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It turns out you can quite easily edit the levels


If there is an interest I can quickly piece a simple level editor :). Really, it would be less than an hour of work*.




Yay! Not that I would make any levels (in all likelyhood), but I would be glad if others made them.

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Reading the author's diary, I discovered that a new version has come out. It fixes some sort of a white screen bug I've never encountered myself.

More importantly for aspiring level designers, it appears to include rules for making flowers bloom in certain order when two simultaneous and contradictory bloomings are possible at the same time. This doesn't actually come up at any level when solving them, and probably not at all even in strange variations.

But if you do make your own levels, this might be something you'd want to use for the harder ones.

Here is the diary:

http://qrostar.skr.jp/index.cgi?page=diary

I couldn't find links to particular entries, so do a CTRL-F for "It cannot be determined which flower blooms."

Apparently someone from our fine forum has written him, thanked him for the game, and analyzed some of these possible tricky situations. :)

The apge where you can download 1.000: http://qrostar.skr.jp/index.cgi

EDIT: I would also like a level editor, with the caveat that I am not likely to make lots of levels or any good ones! :fun

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Took 4 hours instead of one, but that's good enough for me.

The editor as well as sources are attached (in Blitzmax!) I have marked this as All Rights Reserved because of two reasons:
1. I am using the graphics found in game in the editor
2. And the files are easily accessible
I won't stop anyone from sharing this with other people though.

Some controls, to keep your attention:
 * Left Mouse Button  - draw currect item
 * Right Mouse Button - clear under mouse
 * S                  - Save
 * L                  - Load 
 * 0, 1, 2, 3, 4      - Jump to item
 * Q, W               - Prev/Next item
 * Mouse Wheel        - Prev/Next item


And obviously, this editor is pretty rough, especially item selection. Nevertheless, shoot me with all your suggestions (unless you want: Flood Fill, Rectangle drawing, Line Drawing, Select and Copy).

I have waited 3 years... Three years to release something written in BlitzMax, and finally, I had a chance :D. And because of that, I have less than no idea on what computers it will work. It is compiled to use OpenGL, but DX7 and DX9 recompilations are also possible. I don't know if, from Windows, I can build to Linux - I doubt, so if you want Linux or MacOS version, someone who has either version of Blitzmax has to do it!

EDIT: Renamed Code.exe to Editor.exe in the package, in case somebody had some doubts.

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I have access to an old Windows XP box with nothing but software OpenGL 1.1 support. The program worked just fine on it, so I don't think you need to worry about compatibility on the Windows side at least.

Since I couldn't get Hanano itself to work under Wine (didn't even try extensively), I am not going to test this on Wine either, not right now anyway.

I don't think the editor is missing any obvious basic functionality, and I will certainly use it if I can come up with actual good puzzle ideas. I think I'll be working on my little DROD hold instead, though.

Good and quick job. Thanks.
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Not a problem, at all. Now, could someone answer me this question about level 29:

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That's the right plan. Here are some specifics in case you get stuck:

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10-27-2011 at 10:41 AM
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Hi,

I'm stuck on level 20.

I don't know where to start.

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and then I'm stuck... I don't see what I can do :~(

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I'll start by telling you the order of events in my solution:

You should try to see if you can get a blue block up to the blue flower. After that, you can revise your strategy so after blooming a blue block you can manage to get the red block over to the red flower.

Let me know if you want more specific hints on how to get that done.

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I would like some more details,
because
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[second secret tag]

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[third secret tag]

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Yes to both of those.

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Just started this game and very embarassed to say that I am stuck very early in the game, on what looks to be a very easy level - Level 9!

Any pointers? It feels like I've tried every possibility.

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I'd got as much, and because of the walls, some of the remaining options aren;t possible either.

Yet, I still can't get it. (note: I'm off work, sick, so that my explain the lack of brain functioning)

Can I have a further clue or a spoiler?

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Wow, how did I miss that?


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[second secret tag]

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[third secret tag]

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Yes to both of those.

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What a difficult level, here is what I do:
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What am I missing?

Thanks in advance!

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Robin, here is how I do the Level 20: (Complete solution, step by step, [secret] by [secret])

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Great game. After my earlier embarrassment, I'm pleased to say I'm up to level 37 (with some teamwork with my girlfriend, but no other hints)!

Some genius puzzles. Wish there were more than 40!

Edit: I seem to be on level 41. Cool

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Some genius puzzles. Wish there were more than 40!

Your wish is granted - there are 50 puzzles in total. :)

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Anyone care to point out where I'm going wrong in level 43?
Assumptions in this attempt are that I have the 1x2 grey block at the top of my pile, and that the last thing to bloom is the red block on the right.

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