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1What rating would you give Jacob's "Look No Doors"?7.85714285714291.6413036132966
2Finally, what rating would you give Chaco's "Doorless Hold"?7.57142857142861.3997084244475
3What rating would you give VIPCOOL's "VIPCOOL - No Doors"?6.71428571428571.829464067838
4What rating would you give Mazer's "Who needs doors"?6.28571428571431.0301575072754
5What rating would you give hartleyhair's "Conspicuous Absence of a Common Element"?5.85714285714291.2453996981545
6What rating would you give Neather2's "Chacho's Dungeon without Doors"?41.5118578920369
What did you think of the Holds with No Doors contest?
It was a great idea that was executed very well. PollPollPoll 5 71.43%
It was terrible and I hated it. PollPollPoll 1 14.29%
I have no opinion on the contest, but I enjoy voting in polls. PollPollPoll 1 14.29%
This contest didn't have enough tubers in it. PollPollPoll 0 0.00%

What rating would you give Neather2's "Chacho's Dungeon without Doors"?
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What rating would you give VIPCOOL's "VIPCOOL - No Doors"?
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Average Vote 6.7142857142857
Standard Deviation 1.829464067838

What rating would you give Jacob's "Look No Doors"?
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Average Vote 7.8571428571429
Standard Deviation 1.6413036132966

What rating would you give hartleyhair's "Conspicuous Absence of a Common Element"?
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Average Vote 5.8571428571429
Standard Deviation 1.2453996981545

What rating would you give Mazer's "Who needs doors"?
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Average Vote 6.2857142857143
Standard Deviation 1.0301575072754

Finally, what rating would you give Chaco's "Doorless Hold"?
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Average Vote 7.5714285714286
Standard Deviation 1.3997084244475
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Here is the rating poll for the Holds with No Doors contest. There are five official entries, and one unofficial entry (mine).

Rate the six holds using whatever criteria you want, but I'd like to politely request request that you keep in mind the theme of the contest and how well you thought these holds followed the theme.

This poll ends December 12th, 2007, 12:00 GMT. That gives everyone about nine days to play seven short holds, which I believe is reasonable.

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12-03-2007 at 12:52 AM
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12-03-2007 at 12:53 AM
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12-03-2007 at 12:54 AM
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Attached to this post is Jacob's entry "Look No Doors". Please rate the entry based upon this attachment.

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12-03-2007 at 12:55 AM
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Attached to this post is hartleyhair's entry "Conspicuous Absence of a Common Element". Please rate the entry based upon this attachment.

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12-03-2007 at 12:56 AM
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Please don't rate Mazer's entry based upon what was attached here.

Instead, look at Mazer's original entry post here for the updated, possible hold.

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12-03-2007 at 12:57 AM
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Urgh, and I've just realised my entry was impossible. I have a possible version, but I suppose that updating is against the rules... *sighs*

Silly me.

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12-03-2007 at 07:46 AM
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For Mazer's "Who needs doors?" - I see what you have to do in 1S1W, but can't manage it.
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12-03-2007 at 05:51 PM
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For Mazer's "Who needs doors?" - I see what you have to do in 1S1W, but can't manage it.
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I agree... can't see how the skipper nest can be destroyed. Voting 5 for this one and hartleyhairs unless a solution can be shown to exist.

I also think Chaco's hold should have been a multiple choice as I really struggle playing holds with no other goal than playing them. I personally don't want to vote as I won't be playing it, but still want my other votes to count. I'll therefore give a 5 although, had it been official, I've no doubt it would be a lot higher. The 2 first rooms look very promising.

It would have been good to have a "I didn't play it" option alongside a "Perfect!", "Great", "Ok...", "Poor". I know you want feedback but I just want to help with getting votes in for official entries.

Overall, I was disappointed by the fact these holds didn't play on the fact doors "ought to be there", and finding ways to re-implement them. Having said that, there are some great puzzles here.

Good luck to all :) Voting...
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Well, I'd assumed (and confirmed by looking in the editor) that the builder makes it possible to destroy/destroys the nest once you've killed the snake. (Some scrolls/speech to explain this, and some checkpoints, would have been nice). But I still have the same problem with killing the snake (even though I know how to do it).

I'm not too sure what you mean about the other holds. Chaco's one has yellow and green door equivalents (and a blue door style corridor), as does mine.
Of course, what qualifies as a door-equivalent is debateable, but that's the whole point of the contest.
Of course, your point applies to some of the other holds.

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12-03-2007 at 10:35 PM
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I'm not too sure what you mean about the other holds. Chaco's one has yellow and green door equivalents (and a blue door style corridor), as does mine.
Of course, what qualifies as a door-equivalent is debateable, but that's the whole point of the contest.

Yeah, exactly... I didn't mention yours as I saw no issue with it.
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Thanks. Sorry, I misread your post and took "these holds" to mean "all these holds we've been given to vote on".

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12-03-2007 at 11:37 PM
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Chaco, you've attached the wrong version of my hold, which is impossible. I had uploaded the latest version to the original thread.
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Sorry for double posting, but here is the demo for 1S1W.
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Thanks for the demo. It's not clear to me what changes you made, since it seems to me that all the rooms were possible originally (you don't need to change the decoy placement in 1W for starters).

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12-04-2007 at 08:57 PM
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Chaco, you've attached the wrong version of my hold, which is impossible. I had uploaded the latest version to the original thread.


Whoops. Sorry to anyone who voted on the previous hold and thought it worse because it was impossible.

I'll change the entry post to point to that post in the thread.

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(you don't need to change the decoy placement in 1W for starters).
Actually, I had to, because they made it impossible to finish the hold (backtracking problem).

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Whoops. Sorry to anyone who voted on the previous hold and thought it worse because it was impossible.

Hmmm... I've just realised I can't re-vote. If an admin could remove my votes (if it's easy enough), I'd be grateful. Mazer deserves a lot more than my original "tis impossible" vote...
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(you don't need to change the decoy placement in 1W for starters).
Actually, I had to, because they made it impossible to finish the hold (backtracking problem).


No they didn't - it's possible to get the Slayers to stab the decoys if you're clever.

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(you don't need to change the decoy placement in 1W for starters).
Actually, I had to, because they made it impossible to finish the hold (backtracking problem).


No they didn't - it's possible to get the Slayers to stab the decoys if you're clever.


Indeed, that was the point I was making.

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12-05-2007 at 09:18 PM
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Meh... I need help with Chaco's secret room.
I just can't seem to get the mimic to stab the crumbly wall, it's always one square too far to the west. What am I supposed to do after lighting the top-right fuse?

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What am I supposed to do after lighting the top-right fuse?

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Stab the crumbly wall.

I'll let you figure out how to get the extra square. :)

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Well thanks for not helping me.. :/

So let's see... Here are my current thoughts:

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Master EDIT: Done. :P

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If it helps, I have the roach going from north to south instead of from east to west when I solve the room.

Anything beyond that is probably going to be a spoiler, so keep toggling the "yellow doors" :)

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This poll closes in a day - if you've been putting off voting on the entries, today is a great day to finish the job!

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12-11-2007 at 11:42 AM
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So how did we all do?

1st Place: Jacob with Look No Doors
2nd Place: Me with Doorless Hold
3rd Place: VIPCOOL with VIPCOOL - No Doors
4th Place: Mazer with "Who needs doors"
5th Place: hartleyhair with "Conspicuous Lack of a Common Element"
6th Place: Neather2 with "Chacho's Dungeon without Doors"

So, what do we get?

As promised, I will not take the second place prize, so the prize breakdown is as follows:

+7 rank points for Jacob
+5 rank points for VIPCOOL
+3 rank points for Mazer

Please reply to this thread in order to receive your rank points.

I have also received a message from Elfstone to the effect that she also wishes to give out rank points to the winners in order to increase the reward, so you may want to look out for a slightly higher amount than I have indicated.

I am very glad that the 5 great architects here have participated. Great going, all of you!

So what's going to happen to the compilation?

I will wait a total of three days for someone to volunteer. If nobody volunteers to compile the entries before December 15th, 2007, I will create the compilation.

Once again, great job to everyone that entered! I had a great time making my entry and I think everybody else did too. There's a large variety of rooms here and I believe people will enjoy playing and optimizing the entries.

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12-12-2007 at 11:18 PM
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I'd be happy to make the compilation.

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12-13-2007 at 07:19 AM
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Huh. I thought I were not going to get the third place, but it seems I didn't know that Chaco weren't participating. Well at least I'd be happy if I got those rank points. :)
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Hmm... am I allowed to include a possible version of my entry for the compilation?

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