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So, it was brought up recently that holds in Architecture don't always get a lot of attention. I had an idea for addressing that: a group of dedicated volunteer testers, so architects have a specific place to go to when they need more feedback.

What does that mean, exactly? Well, the way I'm thinking of it is, we have a list of volunteers here who are willing to test holds. Not everyone who volunteers has to test every hold in Architecture, the point is just that they're saying this is something they're fine with doing regularly.

If you're an architect looking for feedback, you can post in this thread and I guess I contact all the volunteer testers. If we don't get enough of them playing the hold, then I start pressuring people a bit more about it.

That's the plan, anyways. It may change depending on how things work out. For now, let's just get some names on a list and see what happens.

Volunteer testers:
-Dragon Fogel
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Holds with testing requested:
Slayer Manipulation: http://forum.caravelgames.com/viewtopic.php?TopicID=42338
King Azb's Arena: http://forum.caravelgames.com/viewtopic.php?TopicID=42218
The Tower: http://forum.caravelgames.com/viewtopic.php?TopicID=42736

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04-25-2016 at 04:53 AM
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Neat idea!

I actually need some help testing my current hold in the architecture board, Rodents of unusual size.

On the other hand, I also like testing holds, so can I join this group too?

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Red-XIII wrote: I actually need some help testing my current hold in the architecture board, Rodents of unusual size.

I'm on it :)

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04-26-2016 at 07:14 AM
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I think this is a great idea! I'd be willing to join, but the time I (can) take for DROD fluctuates a lot. Currently is a pretty busy period, for example.

I guess you could just add me to the list and I'll try to help out whenever I find the time :)
04-26-2016 at 02:02 PM
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Please add me to this list as well.
04-26-2016 at 06:42 PM
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I usually try every hold in architecture but some of them are pretty hard for my ability :P.
I would like to be added to the list anyway.
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I think the first post should have a list of holds that have been requested for testing, so testers don't have to wade through an endless mess of posts to find out which holds to test. :P

Also I'd like to send out a last call for testing on Like Grains in a Hourglass. It's pretty much ready for release, I simply need to make sure no US's have snuck in.

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04-28-2016 at 09:30 PM
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I think the first post should have a list of holds that have been requested for testing, so testers don't have to wade through an endless mess of posts to find out which holds to test. :P


Good idea. I've added that, with links to the threads for the requested holds. I'll just update the list when a hold on it gets published.
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I would like to please have some testers for Blockerture Science Laboratories. Some people have already looked at it, but that was quite a while ago, there are some new things in it, and I'd also like to see more folks' opinions of it in general.

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Sign me up, I'll test anything you throw at me. Let's do this!

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Sign me up, I'll test anything you throw at me. Let's do this!

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Whoa Nelly it's been a busy couple of months in the architecture forum. It's hard to keep up with all the new holds in progress. I've put together a little list to keep track of where everything is. If you want to help out with beta testing and aren't sure where your efforts would be best spent this may be of some use to you. Names link directly to the thread.
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There's lots of stuff going on in the architecture forum as of late, so maybe it's time to take stock again. Hopefully these little lists are at least somewhat helpful for those of you deciding where to put your beta testing efforts and not excessively annoying. As before, the hold name links directly to the thread.
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I'll go ahead and continue my trend of bumping this thread every couple of months. It's a bit self serving this time since I actually have a hold on architecture that could use testing :D Also, quite a few holds from the previous list have either been published or sent to HA, so thanks to everyone who has been beta testing and providing comments. At this point, Rodent's of Unusual Size is under HA review, and Ghostsmiters, DROD: Standard Compilation, and WYSIWYG contest compilation all got published. Good stuff! Here is a brief breakdown of the holds that have been active in architecture for the past couple of months or so. EDIT: Date format changed to be more clear.
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I think I'd generally like it if someone who finds the hold to be totally fine would say "It's fine" and possibly also upload a hold-demo-pack* if willing/able.

*-The thing you get from saying "Export All" in the demo screen, then saying 'yes' when it asks you if you want to export every demo in the whole hold, in case someone hasn't seen that option before.

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Suggestion: change date format from d/m to something like 8 Oct. I keep getting confused at which number is the month and which is the day.
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Bout time to bump this again. This time my motivation is slightly different. There hasn't been quite as much activity in architecture and I'm hoping this maybe motivates some activity. We could use some more new holds in 2017!

Three holds from the previous list got promoted, The Spacetime Kerfluffle, Torus, and Hold. Some of the other holds on that list are still active or have active architects and there are a couple of newer holds in architecture as well. Some of the things listed at the bottom of the list are on the older side, but I'm hoping they are still active projects since they're all pretty cool!
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I've bugged and fussed about block bugs off and on but to my current memory they've been ironed out to a point where I shouldn't need to alter them anymore. Blockerture is now in a funny place where all of my architecture is done, it'd be cool to have a few more room submissions from other folks to add to the Employees Only section perhaps, but the biggest roadblock is me wanting to do voice acting at least for the "computer". I've recorded a few lines for it and put up an open call in General for somebody to play Beethro in that hold, which nobody has responded to, and I've procrastinated since those first few lines on that task even though I'm confident I know exactly how I want the lines to sound and how to handle the effects for them after putting together said first few.

The only thing I really feel still needs an opinion is maaaaybe whether or not Floating Antechamber 1N1W and 1N2W (both "simultaneous control of a momentum and gravity block" puzzles) are truly unreasonable. I find them neat but I guess if they're just too tough and unintuitive to someone walking in for the first time I could move both to postmastery and try to find a new pair of rooms to put there or something.

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Umm, are this tester group are still active?

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Sort of? The group isn't a very formally organized thing and I've been very negligent in updating the original post.

However, most of the people who volunteered to test are still active, and you can feel free to ask in here if you want more people testing your hold.
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Well, if you don't mind you can test hold named Slayer Manipulation in this link : forum.caravelgames.com/viewtopic.php?TopicID=42338&page=0#417024

Generally, I want opinion and feedback from some peoples.
Also, there has some new things like new rooms, etc, etc.

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Sorry! I never got around to testing the updated version. I'll take a look at it this weekend. I know of at least one other person in the Architectural Testing Group who has played through the hold who mentioned it in Caravel Net chat. They have been very busy with a new job though and have not had time to write up anything.

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Hey fellow testers. Lot's of stuff in architecture at the moment. It's been a while since the last time I did one of these rundowns, but a few architects have been asking around for more testers so I figured it was time. I don't know if these are helpful to anyone other than me. But what the heck, I'll post this anyway in the hopes that it might inspire some more testers to check out these cool holds.

The Tower
Architect: Scattercatt
Last updated: 11/August
Status: This one is super fun. A very nice mid sized hold at maybe the 6 brain level. It has three testers so far, but more are always welcome!

Chalice's Dungeon
Architect: Resert On
Last updated: 11/August
Status: This looks like it's just gotten started but is intended to go out to 11 levels or more. Only one tester at the moment. Resert On has another hold that has already been sent to HA (Slayer Killing Hold) and a smaller hold that is still in architecture as well.

King Azb's Arena
Architect: azb
Last updated: 21/July
Status: A fairly long Hack'n'slash hold. If you long for hold with more action this is the one. It also has some pretty neat scripting in it (all scripting is very clearly communicated and there's no "guess the scripting" involved.) It's had a few testers for earlier levels, but testers for the newer levels are needed, and there's a convenient warp to get to them if you do test this one out.

The Adventure of John
Architect: Resert On
Last updated: 21/July
Status: Another one by Resert On. This hold is pretty short and quick to play through. Only one tester so far.

Blockerture Science Laboratories
Architect: Xindaris
Last updated: 24/April
Status: This one is complete for the most part and just needs some voice acting. Please head over to the thread and show off your wonderful Beethro impersonation! Let's get this one published!

Fendik's Fortress
Architect: mauvebutterfly
Last updated: 20/April
Status: Mauvebutterfly has been busy running the blind race, but mentioned possibly getting back to this one in chat. It's a neat hold with a good bit of variety. There are three testers so far, but not much testing has been done on the later levels, so more testers would definitely be welcome.

Halph's Secret
Architect: eatmorepies
Last updated: 1/March
Status: Eatmorepies is new to architecture and relatively new to DROD, so this is your chance to encourage a new and budding architect. The hold pretty easy and only a couple of people have commented so far.

A Simple Hold
Architect: bomber50
Last updated: 2016
Status: So this is a bit old, but bomber50 is a pretty reliable architect and maybe a bump to the thread is just what bomber needs as a little motivation!

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As I mentioned over on the main thread of King Azb's Arena, there are a variety of levels. Don't feel afraid to post if you don't like a level, but don't allow it to scare you away as you can warp past it to levels you find more interesting... there's always a big variety I have in store. :)

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Count me in on this! Newer holds always deserve attention and I would love to be one to help.
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Finally got around to updating the first post. I could have added some of the other holds Insoluble mentioned, but I'm not entirely sure on which ones are being actively worked on.

To make it easier for myself, I'll stick to putting holds in there where the architect informs me they want testers. (I included King Azb's Arena because azb posted in this thread about it, which seemed like a good enough reason to include it.) Unless somebody has a better idea for how I can manage that.
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Finally got around to updating the first post. I could have added some of the other holds Insoluble mentioned, but I'm not entirely sure on which ones are being actively worked on.

To make it easier for myself, I'll stick to putting holds in there where the architect informs me they want testers. (I included King Azb's Arena because azb posted in this thread about it, which seemed like a good enough reason to include it.) Unless somebody has a better idea for how I can manage that.


If you're gonna be taking requests, please test my hold "The Tower" as it only has a couple testers and needs more before i send it through HAs
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