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This is a tutorial hold, designed to teach you everything about all the new elements.

I plan on making this hold quite comprehensive. Most, if not all of the elements, should hopefully be more than adequately explained when I'm done with it.

For now, there's just one tutorial level, going through one of the elements. I hope you enjoy it!

I would greatly appreciate feedback on this. I expect a lot of players will download this hold, and thus, I want to make sure that it's top-notch.

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07-04-2014 at 09:40 PM
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Wow, it looks flawless so far! :thumbsup

Who knew my TSS tutorial competition would be so stiff?

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07-04-2014 at 10:13 PM
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Wow, who knew there was this much to say about disabled force arrows? ;)

This is a very good tutorial, though I worry about whether you will really have the patience to cover all the elements in this much depth. My only suggestions for improvements are a few minor points:
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07-05-2014 at 12:10 AM
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I'm aware this is a bit old but I just wanted to say that I was impressed by how in-depth and clearly explained this is. I never knew there was so much to say about disabled force arrows.
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Been over two years since I've updated this, so here we go!

A cleaner hub level has been added. Two new tutorial levels here, both focusing on pushes/stuns. They are mostly finished.

Also, some changes to disabled force arrows level. It should be fully backtrackable now, and some incorrect information (due to patches) has been removed.

EDIT: Fixed stair issue mentioned below.

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08-03-2016 at 05:19 PM
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The stairs to the disabled force arrows level warps to a wrong location.

I'm about to check out the pushes and stuns levels now.
08-03-2016 at 05:31 PM
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Very fun! And very good tutorial! Some comments:

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Great hold so far! I love your teaching style, and I can't wait to see you make even more content! :thumbsup

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Good tutorial indeed, even though it will be definitely hard for beginners it's quite good for all other players.
I think it is quite hard to test a tutorial hold, so this is what I noticed so far.

Pushes and Stuns:

4N1W: For this room you should know that roach queens can spawn over disabled force arrows, which means that the force arrows tutorial level should be played first.
1N1W, 1W: Good rooms, but these could be considered normal rooms, they don't seem really tutoralish.
1S: How is this supposed to work? No idea what happened, see demo attached.

Disabled arrows:

This seem pretty flawless, good and solid.

My only advice is to try teaching a single hard interaction in a single tiny room, some parts in some rooms in Pushes and Stuns require precise execution, so they could be treated as a standalone room IMO.

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08-05-2016 at 12:49 PM
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New version in first post!

Several changes to the three current tutorial levels were made.

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08-17-2016 at 07:03 PM
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Just played through this hold today. Notable things:

Advanced Pushes and Stuns
2N5E: Pretty sure this is a bug, because nobody should be able to move across gentryii chains. Similarly, citizens can move across gentryii chains, and it's considered a bug.
4N6E: Now this room is interesting, because after pushing Halph, the game beeps after Halph reevaluates its path. drod.err shows this:
Assertion error in line 470 of .\Halph.cpp: "wCol != this->wX || wRow != this->wY"

This error also happens whenever I undo while Halph's on the new path. Probably should be reported to the bugs board.
08-19-2016 at 04:44 AM
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