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Limited Resources (A mix of Unfortunate Architect and The Truthbringers)

In one of the areas of Dugandy there was a small king named Bandago
(aka. moneyoutofwindowthrower). One day, this king bought tons of building
materials and monsters and odds and ends. The king called for his architects
and told them to construct a huge impressive dungeon out of these materials.
One year later, the king was the plesant owner of a 720 room dungeon. After a
short inspection, he gave the architects group 1 million greckles (aka rank
points). Then the trouble began. The architects couldn't decide who gets how
many greckles so they asked the king. The king replied:

"Because you are too greedy to devide the money fairly, only one of you will
receive the greckles! I know there are still enough materials left over for another
big dungeon. But I don't want another 720 room dungeon. Instead, each of
you will get a part of the materials and with them will build a personal dungeon
of at least six rooms. I will inspect your dungeons and the architect of the
best dungeon will get the greckles!"


Then he gave each architect the following things:

UNLIMITED floors, characters, walls,checkpoints, pits, yellow doors, green doors, stairs, blue doors, and level entrances
NO custom floors
NO secret rooms
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10 roaches
2 queens
2 wraithwings
4 wubbas
4 rock golems
8 evil eyes
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3 orbs
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3 orthogonal squares
1 mimic potion
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4 lines of script
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210 Greckles

Contest Phases

The contest first begins with a Barter phase. In the Barter phase, you can use your greckles to
buy things, sell things to other players, or trade items with other
Players or with me! (1 greckle probably equals about 1.5 roaches)
Contact me and I'll give you some deals I would do. Or you PM me the
deal you want to do. I will also supply you with advanced monsters/devices or offer you special
suprise deals. There will also be public offers. If you do barter with other players, both
traders have to PM me.

The Barter phase lasts from the 11th of January to the 21th of January.
Hint: Use all your money. After the Barter phase you can't use it any more to buy things.

Both during and after the barter phase, you may work on building a hold that doesn't exceed the materials you have. The hold
must have at least 6 rooms but everything else lies in your hands. Send me your hold (Anyone Edit permission) via
E-Mail to daniel.blochinger@vr-web.de . You have time to build until the 26th of January, when the contest ends. Then I'll make them public in
a poll. The people will give every hold 1-10 points, based on its fun factor. The winner will recieve 100 rank points and something
from the the Prize Pile. Second place will get 50 rank points, and third place will get 25 points.

Please post here if you want to play. You have until the 11th of January to enter the contest.

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01-07-2006 at 04:19 PM
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I would like to play, if only to publish a hold.

Sure, two greckles equals three roaches, but how many for roach queens, wraithwings, etc? Or are we just going to barter for those?

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Do we start bartering right away?
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I would like to play, if only to publish a hold.

Sure, two greckles equals three roaches, but how many for roach queens, wraithwings, etc? Or are we just going to barter for those?


You´ll see it. If I would put a price table here I would spoil the game. But you can be sure that a queen or a rattle snake will be more expensive than a roach. I just wrote 2 greckels = 3 roaches to prevent people to trade 1 evil eye for 150 Greckels.

Also you have to keep in your mind that everything has a relative value. For someone who really needs a tar mother, a tar mother is more valueable that for somebody who has already 4.

Just await the offers you and the other players will get. Ill sell everything... there will be even Combo offers... just wait.

@coppro : You can start bartering when the barter phase starts. It wouldn´t be fair else.

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Well, I'm thinking Tar and Mud Mothers will be more expensive than rooms full of tar and mud, as the mothers could just generate that amount in short work.

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I'm in.
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If you give everyone 10 roaches, more than 200 greckles and say that roaches are worth less than one greckle each, people are so not going to sell them, because they would gain almost nothing by doing that.

Having said that, I'm still in, but I'm a bit cautious on how this will turn out.
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I'm thinking these sort of restrictions are going to encourage trapdoor puzzles too much.

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Checkpoints aren't valid.

That was stupid.

I don't see trapdoors on the list anywhere.

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I think that most people will be really annoyed playing the holds if checkpoints aren't put in the unlimited list. I don't really see any reason to limit their use except to annoy the players...the builders aren't likely to spend their greckles on them since they won't add to the puzzles.

Game on,

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I think that most people will be really annoyed playing the holds if checkpoints aren't put in the unlimited list. I don't really see any reason to limit their use except to annoy the players...the builders aren't likely to spend their greckles on them since they won't add to the puzzles.

Game on,


You´re right. Fixed it.
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Okay I'm in the contest.

Just I want to know if we can build many levels, because it isn't specified in the contest.

Another thing: are Stable tar and mud free?

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Okay I'm in the contest.

Just I want to know if we can build many levels, because it isn't specified in the contest.

Another thing: are Stable tar and mud free?


No. They will be bought in m˛. Mothers will be bougth in pairs (you may use 1 mother as 1 eyepair or 1 single eye but not as 2 single eyes)
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What about Levels?
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You have unlimited stairs and unlimited floors, walls, and pits, so technically you could just build one giant maze hold a la level 13. I don't think that would be very entertaining for the voters, however.

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You have unlimited stairs and unlimited floors, walls, and pits, so technically you could just build one giant maze hold a la level 13. I don't think that would be very entertaining for the voters, however.


Levels are unlimmited.

Gigant mazes wont be made because they wouldnt score good !
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4 lines of scripting seems kinda harsh. That means you can have only two rooms where Beethro says something. Almost anything else takes up more than one line.

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*Hopes that script is cheap*

Are NPC's free or do you have to buy them along with the script?
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Hey! You don't buy people, silly!

I suggest that you have to pay actual participants, and then they can "act" in your hold. But they get to choose the dialog.

Maybe. I dunno. I don't run this contest, Meck does.

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I'm going to give this a try. My chances of winning are next to nil, but I figure I can make a small interesting area.

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I will participate.
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I am in ;)

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Levels are unlimmited.
Gigant mazes wont be made because they wouldnt score good !


I love mazes!! They are my favorites!! I guess others do not. So, I will have to reconsider my approach.

Also, what are "3 orthogonal squares"? This is the only element I do not know by name.

I am really looking forward to this contest.



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Ortho-squares are the ones that don't let you move diagonally.
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What'm I talking if I want some scrolls?
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*Hopes that script is cheap*

Are NPC's free or do you have to buy them along with the script?


You can place as many NPC´s as you want, but they are limmited by the numbers of scripts lines you have.

One important thing : If you transform a NPC into a monster it also counts as this monster.

@ Banjooie : If you want scrolls than ask me for scrolls or wait until there is a public offer/auction for them.

The first offer will come up at 11.Januar when the barter phase starts. Youll then also be able to barter with other players.


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Crudz0rs, no intelligent goblin this time around :?

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You know, most mathemeticians say that i is "the square root of negative one." Hah! They know not the truth.

For i is "in."

On the contest:
This puzzle is going to take away all of the DROD "sub-environments" (a room covered in trapdoors, tar, mud, etc.) and force DRODiacs to use a painfully varied mix of elements. Wait -- MeckMeck is trying to force me to be a better architect! I knew it all along.
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I'm in. I haven't contested in a while, but this one sounds fun.
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Thanks Meckmeck, you're my saver! If i can win, i do know what's my choice! So i'm in! (i wonder is agaricus5 is ok with this)

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