r3m0t
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Chalks wrote:
Halph!

Yeah, I got one of those.

Darkmatt
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And now the tar babies are attacking me....and killing me.....I worked so hard for that experience.

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This is getting increasingly bizarre.

I have now discovered that you can receive at least two different messages after rearranging your goodies. One is the aforementioned "You rearrange your goodies, and nothing seems to happen.". The other is "You make an interesting arrangement of goodies, yet nothing happens.".

Of course, this leads to the question: Which arrangements of goodies are considered interesting? My data so far:

Given an orb, a roach and a tarbaby, there are three interesting arrangements:
Orb, roach, tarbaby
Roach, orb, tarbaby
Tarbaby, orb, roach

Given an orb, a roach, a tarbaby, and a negotiator, there is only one interesting arrangement:
Tarbaby, orb, roach, negotiator.

Has anyone else looked at this?

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Hmm... I don't seem to have any interesting arrangements. (Seep, Negotiator, Halph and a Tar Baby)

edit: After finding fifth bar goodie, I've found several interesting arrangements. Here's a list of them: (I won't start brute forcing every combination with 6 or more items...)

Seep - Halph - Evil Eye - Negotiator - Tar Baby
Tar Baby - Halph - Evil Eye - Negotiator - Seep
Halph - Evil Eye - Negotiator - Tar Baby - Seep

As you can see, Halph, Evil Eye and Negotiator were after each other in the same order in all situations. Only these three combinations were succesful, though and for example, the third interesting arrangement didn't work if I swapped Seep and Tar Baby with each other.

But then, I think we need the whole set anyway. That's what the bar says: "0 people are equipped to solve the riddle of the bar"...

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Hmm... if you would need a really big set to get a interesting arrangement that does something (lets say with 8 goodies) there will also be many arrangements to try... (40320 for 8 goodies, even 479001600 for 12 goodies)

I think that the strange vision is a kind of hint...

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We have a new leader!

I made some edits to my previous post, by the way...

robin
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I still haven't got any goodies

So how am I supposed to solve the riddle?


By the way: Is there a list with the people that clicked the bar, and how many times they've clicked it?

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I clicked the bar just shy of 200 yesterday and got my first goodie. It was around click 39550. Looking at the frequence of clicks and goodies that people have won, it would seem that I had to click the bar about another 600 times to get another goodie.

Since only 74 goodies have been won, it seems that bar is a bit mean. Big ol' yellow meanie.

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Merry X-mas Bar!!!!

May Santa give you a lot of Goodies and think of me (as only person that wished you a merry X-mas ) when you give them away




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I got a goodie on my first click after goodies were implemented. Go me.

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61%

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Time for the first Watch the Graph picture!

I made the TCB progress so far easily comparable with the progress of JtRH. The first 50% is where the first bar began, the first 100% marks the release of JtRH and the second 100% will be where TCB is finished...

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So I get the "scintillating mass of colors". I click on it a bit, but it does nothing. I right-click and obtain the URL of this image:
I try messing about with the parameters, and I apparently do so badly, as I receive this menacing image repeatedly:
P.S.I got the URL of my one bar goodie, the roach, also: However, messing with the ID bit produced only the menacing thing.

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I already noticed that a few pages ago. Apparently that's the Bar Guardian come to force us to get the goodies ourselves.

Also, what is this bar riddle that it speaks of?



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Yeah! I started clicking the bar a couple of days ago, and finally got my first goodie (other than that colour thing, of course).

Chaco
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Hey, I got the spidey too.

Oneiromancer, seeing as you seem to be the Official Ambassador of the Bar, is it true that I will need to give up several hours each day praying to the bar by poking it repeatedly before it gives me cool stuff?

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Chaco wrote:
is it true that I will need to give up several hours each day praying to the bar by poking it repeatedly before it gives me cool stuff?

No. You could get a goodie every time you click, if you knew exactly when to click. Every time a goodie is dished out, the bar determines when the next goodie will be made available. The first person to click after that time gets the goodie.

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Doom wrote:
EDIT: Updated with a bigger pic, because I noticed that if you get that specific message (doesn't work with the other tar baby message), you can click on the tar baby and receive an additional message and some weird coloured blocks.

I've noticed that whenever I get the colored blocks, that the upper left most square has a thin border around it. I wonder if that is intended as some sort of clue as to how you have the goodies arranged. Sort of like mastermind, or something along those lines... Has anybody ever seen the pattern with anything other than just the upper left block with the border around it?



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Mattcrampy
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So, the bar's working for the rest of you?

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Chaco
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But... if I don't click practically twenty-four hours a day, then I'll never be able to know when to click at the right time.

Unless...

The next person who gets a goodie, post what time it was when you got the goodie. And the next two people after that too.

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Chaco wrote:
But... if I don't click practically twenty-four hours a day, then I'll never be able to know when to click at the right time.

Unless...

The next person who gets a goodie, post what time it was when you got the goodie. And the next two people after that too.

However, Shick said:

Every time a goodie is dished out, the bar determines when the next goodie will be made available.

It could be something like every time a goodie is awarded, some amount of time within a certain range is randomly selected, and then the next goodie is handed out after that much time has elapsed. If it's like that, then there IS no way of knowing what the right time to click on the bar is. You just have to get lucky. If it's not so random, then maybe we can figure out what the pattern is.


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asmussen wrote:
It could be something like every time a goodie is awarded, some amount of time within a certain range is randomly selected, and then the next goodie is handed out after that much time has elapsed. If it's like that, then there IS no way of knowing what the right time to click on the bar is. You just have to get lucky. If it's not so random, then maybe we can figure out what the pattern is.

Since Schik's said that much already, it should be okay to confirm that yes, a random time is chosen after a goodie is rewarded before the next goodie is available. It's the same for the points from the bar. I won't tell you what the range is on the random time though (especially because I always forget myself).

Game on,

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Nothing happens when all you have is Halph and a checkpoint. Oh well, that's still two more than most people.

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Orb-Evil Eye is an interesting arrangement, for the record.

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RoboBob3000 wrote:
Orb-Evil Eye is an interesting arrangement, for the record.

Wow, I wouldn't have guessed that, but looking in my Book Of Interesting Goodie Arrangements (BOIGA) I see that it is in fact interesting.

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When you say Evil Eye, are you talking about an awake or asleep eye?

My interesting combinations

Negotiator - Asleep Eye - Awake Eye
Negotiator - Awake Eye - Asleep Eye

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Rabscuttle wrote:
When you say Evil Eye, are you talking about an awake or asleep eye?

My eye is snoozing.

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Schik wrote:
Wow, I wouldn't have guessed that, but looking in my Book Of Interesting Goodie Arrangements (BOIGA) I see that it is in fact interesting.

Boiga is a genus of snakes. Hmm.....

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I've heard something that suggests your initial ideas are worth pursuing...

Edit: Why does this keep getting voted up? It's a complete red herring! I'm so confused.

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asmussen wrote:
It could be something like every time a goodie is awarded, some amount of time within a certain range is randomly selected, and then the next goodie is handed out after that much time has elapsed. If it's like that, then there IS no way of knowing what the right time to click on the bar is. You just have to get lucky. If it's not so random, then maybe we can figure out what the pattern is.

It's bit like Las Vegas. You sit there inserting quarters into the slot machine hoping (and trying) to get lucky, and then when you go off to get some food or some more quarters, someone else takes your seat. Then on their first try, they get lucky. Hundreds tar babies come rushing out (is better than it sounds). Some people could work the bar, or horde over it. All those Tar Baby/Tar Baby/Lemon combinations that stop you from getting those goodies... they thwart your simple pleasures.

So I propose a second bar. But make it red so it honours DROD 3.0. And instead of how much of the game is completed, it shows how much of the game is not done. And have special clicks like seep in the bar, and they are dying because the bar is shrinking.

All you need is a trapdoor... ha. That would be cool.

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