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Once upon I time I published a DROD Ideas Generator this evening. Before I say anything more, here is the link.

This funky tool will first and foremost allow you to generate quality rules for a potential room you could mean. And by quality I mean the effects of hard work of multiple people who worked on populating the database tirelessly for the last couple of days. But wait, there is more!

It is a growing database of all the elements in the game and their interactions which tries to be as accurate and as complete as possible, which can now be browsed to allow you too see how something works in the game. But wait, there is even more!

An ever-growing database of puzzle concepts where every registered forumite can submit their own concepts and vote on the existing ones! [Unfinished at the moment of writing, only moderators can add new content.]. And you'd think it's all but wait, I am not finished!

If you particularly like given concept you can find rooms where it is used. And if you know a room in a hold where one is used you can help others have fun by linking that room to a concept. [Functionality not yet available.] And golly, there is one more thing left!

Deeplinking to your roll, adding new ideas to a roll, removing and re-rolling ideas, advanced customizations to the generator and themed suggestions. All of this under one, tiny, even cute link. [All of these options are yet to come.]

Feel free to use this thread to make suggestions and report problems as well as in separate threads if you feel the need.

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02-17-2015 at 10:46 PM
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I'd like to publicly thank two people I felt I had the most support from during the development with their honest suggestions and critique: Moo and Nuntar. I'd also like to thank the people who worked real hard on populating the database: kieranmillar, hyperme, bomber50.

If I missed anyone slap me with a stick :).

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You removed my addition of "your face" to the database! Why?

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02-18-2015 at 03:08 AM
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I just rolled a few times and got "Brain can traverse shallow water" as an interaction.

That sounded weird to me, but I immediately checked and yes, you can push brains into shallow water and they won't sink. I did not know that.
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Thank you very much for this, I believe it's very useful when you are in a period of "lack of creativity"!

I searched a bit the wraithwing interactions and I think that something's missing (or maybe it wasn't added on purpose, I don't know):
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Red-XIII wrote:

I searched a bit the wraithwing interactions and I think that something's missing (or maybe it wasn't added on purpose, I don't know):
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This can also happen with a roach queen substituted for the wraithwing; it's a consequence of the fact that the player character isn't considered to be an obstacle square when monsters are choosing where to move.

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02-18-2015 at 10:44 AM
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Wait, what? Adders destroy briar?

Other than that, really interesting and looking good.
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Someone Else wrote:
Wait, what? Adders destroy briar?

That sounds like a bug; adders can't eat briar of any kind or briar roots.

(But serpents of all types do block briar growth and won't get killed by it.)

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OH! I get it. Man, you should add some mention that false is red. I did not get that at all. :P
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Red-XIII wrote: I searched a bit the wraithwing interactions and I think that something's missing (or maybe it wasn't added on purpose, I don't know):
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I've amended the "lone wraithwing will never attack" interaction to say "A lone wraithing near its target will not attack", and the "WW flees from Player" to "WW flees from [Attracts Monsters]", where the tag can select any of the entities that attract most monsters and repel WWs and queens.

I don't plan to add a separate interaction for the interaction between these interactions ;) -- it's a fringe case that's very difficult to build a puzzle around.

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A Concept would be the perfect solution here :)

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Just a quick note that in today's update these things were added:
- Linking to results of a roll; the URL in your browser's address bar is automatically updated
- Interaction browser which allows you to browse all interactions for a given element
- A bug in the interaction browser which makes it not display some interactions

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skell wrote:
Just a quick note that in today's update these things were added:
- Linking to results of a roll; the URL in your browser's address bar is automatically updated
- Interaction browser which allows you to browse all interactions for a given element
- A bug feature in the interaction browser which makes it not display some interactions
That's about all I know about programming. :P
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Version 0.9.5 is up, and with it a lot of changes:
- Introduced a bug fixing "A bug feature in the interaction browser which makes it not display some interactions"
- Generator now has a number of options to tweak your results
- Options are included in the URL, so you can bookmark them or share
- Elements now have a plural form
- You can now make themed rolls

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Minor bug: The mouseover text for "Avoid stepping on certain tiles" has an error in it, it gets interrupted with "&qout;forbidden".

(if anyone hadn't noticed, there's mouseover text for the "Include this concept" results)

Edit: Also an issue with "Roach herding", it ends with "&qout;airlock"; this makes sense in context but it might be eating words after that? I'm guessing this is an issue with quote marks in the alt text.

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02-22-2015 at 11:09 PM
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My brain has just encountered a major bug trying to parse
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Use this interaction against the player: Sword dying over Lightpost forms Halph.
Use this interaction against the player: Halph eats Mud Baby and grows.
Seriously though, this tool is super-neat! As soon as I get the image of Halph as John Carpenter's The Thing out of my head I shall try to make some rooms since now I've got a basis to work from. Previous attempts all concluded in me staring at an empty room and going "Hmmmm" a whole lot.
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I was messing around with this and just got the result "Staff kills Temporal Projection". Which it doesn't, seeing as it doesn't kill anything. I did not have Arky-quality suggestions on.
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A staff can easily kill a temporal projection, just not directly; apart from the obvious "push into pit/water/firetrap/etc" options, pushing it around can throw its move sequence out of synch with the monsters it was planning on fighting. Or you can push monsters in such a way that they go kill it where it was safe the first time round. Or push powder kegs onto where the projection's sword went. Or...
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True, but looking at the generator database shows that this is a special case of the interaction "[Deadly] kills [Attracts Monsters]", where the Staff has wrongly been given the attribute Deadly. I've fixed it now.

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