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Yur-Val
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Hold is nise ;)
(now hold is Close)

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06-19-2010 at 08:28 AM
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That it may be, but where is it?

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06-19-2010 at 12:46 PM
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Jacob wrote:
That it may be, but where is it?

Now there.
06-19-2010 at 04:40 PM
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I like the style, I'm stuck in gel land, but that's okay because I like the look on the minimap!
06-20-2010 at 06:48 AM
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Hmm. I wonder where the line is drawn between inspiration, tribute, and outright copying, because you're definitely hovering around it. Could we get a ruling from an HA (or Zch or Kallor)?

That said, the variations are nice (although you might want to recheck the last of the lights out variants for proper plate/door wiring). The text only works on the Russian DROD, I assume; speech is basically all boxes for missing characters on my version. It makes for an interestingly surreal experience, but probably isn't what you're going for.

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06-20-2010 at 09:51 PM
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I have a few concerns in addition to what Dischorran already said. First, I noticed you have the avatar for the Infohut Guy in your hold. I don't know if that image was released for public use by Caravel. If it is then you are okay, but if not then that needs to be changed.

The hold itself has some good puzzles, but there are almost no checkpoints. It is very frustrating to repeat large portions of a room just because of one mistake.

Also, there is a backtracking problem in the Gel Land. There are required rooms on the perimeter, but once you get to the perimeter there is no way to get back to the inside.
06-20-2010 at 11:51 PM
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Gel Land is don't made level in this hold.
Man of infohut is copied.
Zch and Kallor made level Lava Land
06-21-2010 at 09:50 AM
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here Lava Land. (other player)


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06-21-2010 at 09:55 AM
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Yur-Val wrote:
Gel Land is don't made level in this hold.
So, you are still working on it. That is okay, but it would have been nice if you said that it was unfinished when you put the hold up.

Yur-Val wrote:
Man of infohut is copied.
You probably do not know about how the usage rights to DROD have been split. Some parts of DROD are public domain and others are still the property of Caravel Games.

Caravel Games made the game engine free to the public, that is anyone can play other people's levels and make their own for free. All the free demos have a complete game engine as a result.

But the official levels themselves are Caravel's intellectual property. Buying the full game does not give you the right to copy in-game images like the Infohut Guy. He needs to be taken out of your hold because Caravel Games still owns him.

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Zch and Kallor made level Lava Land
I can see that you are inspired by Zch and Kallor. Styling your hold like theirs is acceptable, but copying some of their work is not. In particular, the lights out variations are copied from one of Zch and Kallor's rooms. It is okay to have the lights out puzzles but you have to find your own way of making them.
06-21-2010 at 01:52 PM
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I went ahead and removed the attached holds, as they contain copyrighted Caravel graphics. Yur-Val, either get permission from mrimer to include Caravel graphics, or use other graphics you have permission to use.

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06-21-2010 at 02:07 PM
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Okay. Puzzles will be another.

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