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RankEntryAverageStandard Deviation
1Smitemaster Standards Course8.32.3259406699226
2Standard Contest Submission7.11.9723082923316
3That Which Cannot Exist6.72.3259406699226
4Cutting Edge Gel Facility6.12.7
5The New Standard5.22.5219040425837
6The Negotiator's Challenge52.0976176963403
7standart4.61.6852299546353
That Which Cannot Exist
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Average Vote 6.7
Standard Deviation 2.3259406699226

Cutting Edge Gel Facility
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Average Vote 6.1
Standard Deviation 2.7

The New Standard
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Average Vote 5.2
Standard Deviation 2.5219040425837

Smitemaster Standards Course
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Average Vote 8.3
Standard Deviation 2.3259406699226

The Negotiator's Challenge
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Average Vote 5
Standard Deviation 2.0976176963403

Standard Contest Submission
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Average Vote 7.1
Standard Deviation 1.9723082923316

standart
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Average Vote 4.6
Standard Deviation 1.6852299546353
Total Votes 16 100%
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It's time to vote for the winner of DROD: Standard Edition.

Simply give each entry the score you feel it deserves by assigning it in the poll. Contestants should give their own entry a 10.

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05-24-2016 at 07:25 PM
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Hold.

Each Staircase is labeled with a scroll with the entry's name. Use this to find out what a hold is called, so you can vote for it.

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05-24-2016 at 07:27 PM
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The Negotiator's Challenge and Smitemaster Standards Course both change the shallow water traversal status of the player. It is possible that this could affect other entries. For any final submission that gets sent to the HAs, I'd recommend changing it back to normal in the hub level.

Sorry, I am a culprit here and I should have thought about this and warned you in advance. Didn't occur to me until after actually playing the compilation.

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05-24-2016 at 11:44 PM
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I think I'm going to need help with most stuff that isn't standart, The New Standard and Smitemaster Standards Course, as those are the only entries I've been able to beat.

However The New Standard is broken and Smitemaster Standards Course is mine, so I guess that's not really as good progress as it sounds.

Without being able to beat many rooms, I don't really know how to rate them, how do people usually handle this in contest voting? I remember back in Elemental Showcase 5.0 I rated entries much lower if I struggled a lot with them, even though much later I felt like those entries probably deserved higher once I was able to solve them.

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06-03-2016 at 09:29 PM
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I think all the entries are Anyone Edit so you could always try the rooms that way of you're being prevented from progressing. I'm also happy to answer any questions about my entry (now titled) Standard Contest Entry.
originally titled Standard, fwiw; not sure how/why that changed
06-03-2016 at 11:07 PM
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I can post a demo set that'll cover most of the stuff, I think I got bored with some of the really long entries and stopped so some rooms are missing, but at least that'll help with the nasty stuff in my entry. Would anyone else like this?

Alternatively I can post hints if there are any rooms you have questions about.

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06-04-2016 at 05:41 AM
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That's awesome blorx. I think it would help a lot. Thanks.

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06-04-2016 at 06:06 AM
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I feel I should mention that The Negotiator's Challenge's hub actually sanitizes both the shallow water traversal and the weapon type already.

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06-04-2016 at 03:04 PM
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Here's a pack of demos for the hold. I found out that my entry has some broken rooms, especially 1W and 1E.

For those of you that are interested in the intended solutions to my entry without seeing the demos (as the intended solutions are pretty cool and you'd rather not see them spoiled), I can post some details on the fixes I'd make to 1W and 1E to break the two most obvious US's that I see in those rooms. Regardless, I'll probably implement those changes into the rooms for the post-contest compilation.

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06-04-2016 at 05:39 PM
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Just in case blorx's demos aren't enough, here, have some more demos.

Between the two demo files in this .zip file, these are demos for almost every room in the compilation, except for Standardization 2N (and anything beyond that), and Temporal Gentryii 1W and 1E.

Actual comments are forthcoming.

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06-05-2016 at 06:25 PM
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And, here's some comments included in this text file. Read them, or don't.

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06-05-2016 at 07:35 PM
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I really appreciate the comments. It's worth noting that I didn't think about it as "this is a contest entry", I thought about it like "what are some cool rooms I can make under these limitations". So I guess maybe that wasn't the best idea?



TG 1W is actually not as hard as 1E. Your comments suggest that that room has successfully deceived you.
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I can make demos for both 1W and 1E if anyone wants me to.

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A big mega-thanks for the demos Blorx and Chaco.

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Minor Announcement: Due to a mild lack of foresight on my part, I won't actually be around to announce the contest results until the 16th or 17th. Hopefully, this isn't too much of a delay.

If it is, I can delegate announcement duties to a volunteer.

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And so, the results are in. The Platinum, Tungsten and Brass Medals await!

In 1st Place, is Smitemaster Standards Course by kieranmillar! He wins the Platinum Medal, 100 Rank Points and his choice of prize from the Prize Pile.

In a commendable 2nd Place is Standard Contest Submission by LeoS. He wins the Tungsten Medal and 50 Rank Points.

And in 3rd place is That Which Cannot Exist by blorx1. He wins the Brass Medal, and 25 Rank Points.

And our other contestants, whom made a valiant effort:

4th: Cutting Edge Gel Facility by jamesdenem
5th: The New Standard by Jeff_Ray...
6th: The Negotiator's Challenge by Xindaris
7th: standart by Rompeprop

Additionally, for taking part in their first contest Rompeprop gets 10 Rank Points. Yay!

Good compilation hold is hopefully appearing on Architecture board soon.

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Hooray!

I don't want to add more posts to the Prize Pile thread that isn't actual prizes so I'll post here that I'll take the Perfection Smitemaster Selection please!

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06-16-2016 at 10:58 PM
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Here's a fixed version of my entry. It prevents two trivial solutions in 1E and 1W, which hopefully are the only two to really fix. I don't really care much about 1S so I'll ignore it.

If you weren't spoiled by the demos I posted, these changed rooms are worth checking out because I think the solutions are pretty cool.

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I think I already got the first-contest points? For either troll holds, or the "infinite puzzles" one? I think one of those was official? I don't want to dishonestly accept something I shouldn't be getting.


To the best of my knowledge, the only change The Negotiator's Challenge really needs is at least 3 powder kegs, north of the green door in the Entrance to Powder Robot. Without those the player can't go back to the hub without clearing that level first, which is unintended.

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Troll hold contest was never an official contest. In fact I don't think it's being treated as a contest at all, because nothing happened after the voting period.
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Endless Puzzles, however, was an official contest.

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I have dumbed.

incorrect contest winnings will be detracted.

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Congrats kieranmillar!

I'm honored and pleasantly surprised to come in second to your stellar entry. Wow, I got a cyber-tungsten! :)

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Thanks, hyperme, that was a challenging contest idea. I found it particularly difficult to work around the absence of force arrows (hence the convoluted entry of Issue 1N1E and the intended way of finishing Error 3N2E, for example).

Impressive too that you're already firing this compilation up for hold promotion!
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I was the one who made The New Standard, and I must apologize for the lackluster entry. That was all I had made, and before I knew it the deadline was just about upon us so I decided to throw that in and see what would happen. I'm surprised I didn't get last place, though :P

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Prizes have been sent out.

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