navithmastero
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Hello!

This is my most recent efforts to make a hold. It combines nice looking floors with some puzzles which are not very hard. Most of you shall find the puzzles quite easy I think. Anyhow, I just want to know what you guys think of the first couple of levels.

Hope you enjoy!

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Red-XIII
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Hi, that's a pretty funny hold!
Up to now I've played only The snake pits but I really enjoyed it but I found some US.
Here's my comments:
1S: Pretty simple, didn't needed all the decoys, the two ones on the west are too powerful.
1S2E: I didn't needed the stalwart and I used only 3 decoys, one for the EE and the other 2 for the adder. Is the open red gate a red herring?
2S2E: I found an US that destroyes completely the room, I attached a demo to show you. Otherwise is a good room.
2S1E: it looked like pretty boring but it wasn't, I only had to think where to enter the room.
2S2W: Not sure If I did it the intended way. I simply led the snake on the "circle" Platform and leaved it so that after I dropped all the trapdoors with the single square Platform I put that on (24,6) so that snake went out.
1W: I figured out what to do but didn't do it, I'm way too lazy xD
1S2W: Ugh, that was nasty.
1E and 1S1W: Very simple but enjoyable

In conclusion, this first level really pleased me also because I really liked the architecture (I also looked in the editor, those levels looks really well designed, they're awesome!)
I'll play the other levels as soon as possible.

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navithmastero
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Thanks for the feedback, Red XII, I've fixed the unintended solution in 2S 2E. Yes the decoy room is possible with less than 4 (2 is the minimum) but I still thought it was reasonably tricky with 4. The stalwart room doesn't require too much thought, I know. 2S 1W, that wasn't the intended solution, but I think I'll leave the room as it is.

Anyhow, I'm glad you enjoyed it!

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I'm enjoying this hold so far (haven't come much further than Snake Pits either), but I have a few things to mention:

Snake Pits:
- 1S2W: I have absolutely no idea what I was supposed to do here, but I don't think it's what I have done (see attachment).
- 2S2W: No need to drop the red gates at all. Just lead the snake over (10,2), step on the conquer token and kill the snake wherever you like.
- 2S2E: Haven't been quite as lazy as Red-XIII, but didn't use the mimic potion, either. Actually, I can't think of how to use it anyway. Red herring?
- 1S: Nice, but could use at least one checkpoint. (1S2E and 2S1E are also missing them, though I think it's not quite as bad with them).

Pumping Station: Amazing minimap-art; however, the unusable room exits are slighly irritating.

Fresh Water Lake: Severe backtracking issues: if you enter the central area without either conquering 1S or 5S, you can't get back again. And well, yeah, that's where I stopped playing Gonna restore now, though, and continue.

Anyway, beside of these issues I've really enjoyed playing this hold so far; especially the minimap-art is very well done!

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In some rooms I kind of feel like I've used unintended solutions:


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navithmastero
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Thanks for the feedback both of you.
-2S 2E the mimic is a red herring and the room is fixed.
-1S, 1S 2E & 2S 2W these rooms kinda broke so I'm going to replace this room with something else.
-1S 2W is fixed (I think)
-I have fixed 1S and 5S in 'Fresh Water Lake'.
-I think that's all.

-This is in v3.

Thanks again for the feedback

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Red-XIII
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I continued to play through this hold so here's my new comments:

Snake pits:
2W: Not bad but you don't need all the space you have.
2S1W: I killed the snake in (37,12).
2S: Pretty simple, you just have to wait until the adder prefers horizontal movements and then move to (18,15) and then he will reduce to length 3 after he ate all the golems.
1S2E: Pretty simple.
2S2E: I don't think there are US.

Fresh Water Lake: I personally got stucked in the entrance (I hate aumtlich) so I played the other rooms in the editor.
Unlike the first level this one has pretty challening puzzles.
1S1W: A great tribute to Gigantic Jewel Lost!
1S: Very very easy.
1S1E: It took me ages to help that stupid guard. It's a good room.
3S2E: Tried many combination but still don't get it, any hint? Nice room
4S1E: Good and hard room. Can I have more checkpoints in this one please?
4S1W: I killed the guards pretty fast but the door at (18,27) can't be opened so the room's impossible (I guess). Also, what's the point in that EE?
4S2W: Very easy.
2S2W: I really like these kind of rooms! Well done!
3S1W: Nothing new for me but very funny for those who don't know the trick.
3S2W: Probably my favourite room in this hold so far, I loved it. I'm not sure if I did it the intended way though; I first striked the SW orb, then striked the giant golem at (27,19) without pressing the plate and killed the baby ones thanks to the force arrow in (24,19). After that I took the invisibility potion and killed all the queens but one that I led at (26,17); then I went in (26,20) and waited for the queen to spawn and let the eggs press the pressure plate and then I went for the conquer token. If this is the intended solution then you really rock! If not, it's still a great room.
Looking forward for the next update!




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navithmastero
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Red XII, I'm very glad you are enjoying this hold!

Thanks, once again for playing!

-Anyhow, thanks for the feedback, I have fixed 4S 1W, and is now (hopefully) a good room!

-In 3S 2E, you wanna:

-In 1S 1W, I've taken out 3 potions to boost up the difficulty a little.

-In 3S 3W


This stuff will be in v4!

Thanks once again Red XII!

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You might want to take out more than three potions from 1S 1W (FWL level)... it's possible with only two currently :P

Also, I'm not really getting what you wanted me to do in 3S 2W. I mean, I can use rock golem to hold pressure plate, and queens are there simply to die?

3S 1W is kinda nice room, by the way.

Also, what's up with 2S 2W? Can't I just use mimic to hit conquer token?..

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navithmastero
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Thanks mxvladi! Have now fixed both rooms!
I didn't realise the US in 3S 2W, and am not too sure how to fix.

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navithmastero
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Sorry for bumping, but I've been working on this hold for a couple of months now, and I think it's at the stage where this thread needs to be updated.

So here goes:
-Updated Pumping station code area.
-Made a new 'city' level, warp point for other levels (not yet complete).
-Made a new 'reflection' level (almost complete).
-Made a new 'tarstuff triangle' level (not complete).

I'd like for some people to test out this new stuff, and once again, sorry for bumping (and leaving this thread hanging in the first place ).

-nm


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