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:( About 100 clicks so far, and no sword.
EDIT: Yay! 130!

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You make a very convincing argument. Am doing so now.
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I'd like to apologize to whoever was clicking the bar with me, presumably attempting to get 76767. I had to do some dirty work to get this!
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This was my latest guess
You missed a spot.
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Here's click #77777

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I'd like to apologize to whoever was clicking the bar with me, presumably attempting to get 76767. I had to do some dirty work to get this!
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Yeah, I forgive you.

Also, my latest attempt got all the trapdoors.

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So, how many people beat me to solving it? :)
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So, how many people beat me to solving it? :)
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So, how many people beat me to solving it? :)
http://forum.caravelgames.com/stats.php?Action=bargame

I didn't beat you but I did beat it. :thumbsup I almost gave up when I found out others had beat it already. Guess, I wanted to be first :blush. I want to encourage others who are still working on it not to give up. I is worth it. You never know what might turn up. :glasses

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just to be sure:

q = turn sword clockwise
w = turn sword counter clockwise

(I ask this, because I use different keyboard commands)

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This is about 225 years

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robin wrote:
just to be sure:

q = turn sword clockwise
w = turn sword counter clockwise

(I ask this, because I use different keyboard commands)
Other way around. Q is anticlockwise (e.g. from N to NW), W is clockwise (N to NE).
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I have one sword. What tile should I uncover?

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Use your sword on a guess, vittro. It seems that people already know enough about the board to solve it now.

I need to hurry up and solve this myself. Does anyone know if I can include comments with my guesses? If my guess had the letters "finished trapdoor maze" in it with no numbers, no qs, and no ws, would that invalidate it? I suppose I could waste a sword and find out for myself, but maybe someone knows?
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CuriousShyRabbit wrote:
Does anyone know if I can include comments with my guesses? If my guess had the letters "finished trapdoor maze" in it with no numbers, no qs, and no ws, would that invalidate it? I suppose I could waste a sword and find out for myself, but maybe someone knows?
The game allows for laptop configuration, and thus understands the 789/uio/jkl commands too. So I wouldn't advise including comments.

I do suggest writing up your guesses in a text file first though, where you can split them up into sections and then copy/paste them together later.
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I'm gonna say no - I'm aware that the game takes alternate keyboard commands as well (for different common keyboard configurations), so it is possible that some of your extra text would trigger a movement.

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Perhaps it's a bit late to present such service - what with the room almost opened, but anyway...

I decided to make a service that would allow everyone to share their knowledge about this obscured room behind the bar.

This web page lets anyone enter their facts and guesses about every tile in the room. The facts are then stored on the server and shared with other visitors of that page.

Possible facts about each tile of the room are:
- there could be (could not be) a floor, a trapdoor, a pit, a wall, a red door, a sister red door;
- there is (is not / could be) a roach;
- there could be (could not be) force arrow, for each possible direction;
- it is possible (impossible / not tested) to step in X direction from this tile, for all directions;

The latter sort of facts is useful for totally unexplored part of the room, when you see that it's possible to move along a certain trajectory, but it's hard to say for sure what tiles was on your way. Was it a trapdoor or a floor? Did you just bumped into a wall or a force arrow? In such cases it's best to record the fact: "I was (was not) able to step there". And leave further guesses until later.

I hope the interface would be easy to use. You can click on a board to select the tile of interest. The boxes on the left shows the current state of knowledge for this tile. Then you can click on the wall/floor/arrows/moves to cycle the respective element through "is", "is not", "may be" states. Then select another tile and so on. All your changes are accumulated, you can see the list of them right below editor boxes. Also you can see all the changes that were submitted for the selected tile and for the entire room. Once you're done, submit the changes to the server by clickig "Submit all button". The nickname is merely for the history log, so that everyone can see who made the changes. Please use your forum nick to sign your changes - other users would see your changes in the history log with familiar forum names.

The board could show the following icons on top of each tile:
- no icon, just DROD tile image: we know for sure what's in this tile;
- no icon, just grey tile: nothing is known about this tile;
- exclamation mark: some facts are known, but not enough to guess what's there;
- big question mark: known facts are just enough to tell floor from obstacle, but no further;
- small question mark: floor type is known, there are some minor unknown facts;

Thanks to Mike Rimer for giving the permission to use some of the Caravel graphics!

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Does anyone know if I can include comments with my guesses? If my guess had the letters "finished trapdoor maze" in it with no numbers, no qs, and no ws, would that invalidate it? I suppose I could waste a sword and find out for myself, but maybe someone knows?
Not sure about the letters, but today I've wasted a sword to find out that using a space " " to separate parts of my solution does make a difference. It seems that space is interpreted as "5" (stay put for one turn). Such effect took my Beethro by surprise in a battle with roaches, when one extra pause means death...
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CuriousShyRabbit wrote:
Does anyone know if I can include comments with my guesses? If my guess had the letters "finished trapdoor maze" in it with no numbers, no qs, and no ws, would that invalidate it? I suppose I could waste a sword and find out for myself, but maybe someone knows?
Not sure about the letters, but today I've wasted a sword to find out that using a space " " to separate parts of my solution does make a difference. It seems that space is interpreted as "5" (stay put for one turn). Such effect took my Beethro by surprise in a battle with roaches, when one extra pause means death...

I suggest you place intentional 5's in your code where one section ends and another begins. I did this and it worked for me. I could easily separate the code later if when I needed to. Also, I knew exactly when I was standing still and avoid death that way. Good Luck!!

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I wanted to say a few things.

First, there is an impassible barrier at (1,13) (remember that the top-left corner of the room has the coordinates (0,0)), basically to the west of Roach #20. Plan accordingly.

Second, just getting to the stairs is not enough. To solve the riddle of the bar, you must first conquer the room. This might be obvious or already well-known among the community, but I wanted to point it out to would-be solvers. Again, plan accordingly.

Third, the best way, in my opinion, to get a potential move list for solving the room is to copy the known parts of the room into the editor. Use logic to blend the likely elements of this guessed picture to create a room with as much information as possible.

Last, do not take unnecessary risks in your solution. If a certain path worked once and you can use that path again to conquer the room, do so. There are still many tiles of the room obscured by master walls, so assume the worst about each tile and, yet again, plan accordingly.

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techant wrote:I suggest you place intentional 5's in your code where one section ends and another begins. I did this and it worked for me. I could easily separate the code later if when I needed to. Also, I knew exactly when I was standing still and avoid death that way. Good Luck!!
Yes, this is a good advice, too. I ended up saving commented attempts in a text file and then copying only the move sequences to the game input box.
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What the....

Didn't someone say in this thread that laptop keyboard configurations work on the bar puzzle? I just tried it and was rewarded with Beethro standing on the starting space, having done nothing but spin in place and imagine walking around. Poor confused Beethro.

Though, on the plus side, given that he was facing a different direction than I expected, I suspect I had some of my q/w choices reversed.


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I just made a test guess using
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I feel I fought a few people for this, considering the numbers were jumping by 6 each time. :blush


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I just made a test guess using
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and it seemed to work fine for me. Q should rotate you counterclockwise, and W clockwise.

Ohhhh. I use
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instead. So I guess I'm using a non-standard layout.

Still confuses me as to why Beethro literally didn't move *at all*, though. At the very least, the uio/jkl should have dome something.

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Still confuses me as to why Beethro literally didn't move *at all*, though. At the very least, the uio/jkl should have dome something.
It's quite clear from the room that if you never move north or northeast (as in, input a move of 8 or 9), Beethro will never get out of his initial starting position.
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