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It seems I'm not getting *it*. I have accepted the Quest at the U-Man, but I don't see what else I'm supposed to do now. Let's see what rooms I'm stuck in:

- Temple Garden 1S 1W: I can only enter from the south, so it won't work.
- Maguig's Desert 1S: I can only enter from the south, but I can solve the room. Except I'm stuck then.
- Maguig's Desert 3S 1W: Beethro said something about a portable orb. I guess that's what I need, but like he said, I have *no* idea where to find one. I visited all the rooms I have access to, and got 14 secrets, but that's about all.

I hope the path is not hidden with "secret" walls, as earlier in the hold. Or am I just overlooking something the size of a small blackhole?
12-16-2006 at 12:39 PM
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- Maguig's Desert 1S: I can only enter from the south, but I can solve the room. Except I'm stuck then.
I'd say you're overlooking something the size of a small stairway. When you've cleared the room, the red statue on the stairs will turn green.
12-16-2006 at 12:55 PM
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D'oh. Thanks!
12-16-2006 at 01:24 PM
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NoahT wrote:
In Wretched Bog, 1N2E, I was able to kill the guard without the decoy. Is this intended, or are you supposed to access the decoy first?

-Noah

Stefan found this in the HA page for it. Geo left it in, because sequence breaks (however small) are found many places in Metroid. Metroid Prime semi-spoiler:
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12-16-2006 at 02:30 PM
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Yeah, but where would you go with them...

Oh right. ;)
12-16-2006 at 02:55 PM
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Okay, two people PMed me the secret location. Which was, like, the one place I was holding off going to until I'd found the secret. How silly of me. :)

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12-16-2006 at 04:02 PM
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In Winter Factory 1S1E, I'm almost entirely certain that the last pattern that the blue guy does doesn't match the one he wants me to do (there's a spot where he waits 2 turns but I needed to wait 3).

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12-16-2006 at 08:25 PM
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Alright, mastered.

The concept illustrated behind the Master Wall is very, very cool. :)

I'd have to disagree with jbluestein's opinion that Temple Gardens 1N1W is the hardest room; I'd say Dungeon Cells: The Entrance (after beating the Pit) is the hardest room.

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12-16-2006 at 08:29 PM
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Another weird thing happening. Demo attached.

How come I can open the second Statue that I try to open, but not the first one? Weird.

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12-16-2006 at 08:45 PM
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When I watch your demo, both statues disappear. Nothing happens with the first one for you? That is weird.
12-16-2006 at 09:14 PM
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When I watch it, only one dissapears. I think I'm missing something. I'm running 2.0.14.1 KDD.

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12-16-2006 at 09:34 PM
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I've tried it with 2.0.15 and 2.0.14, and both statues disappear. Looks like a game bug, then, so you may want to mention it over on the Bugs board.

EDIT: I'm playing the JtRH version, so a bug in the KDD version maybe.

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Mastered the hold!

Overall, this is an excellent hold. Not perfect - for one, it has far too few checkpoints, and I didn't like the occasional tar maze and secret wall maze. And, as mentioned above, the difficulty fluctuates a bit too much at some points. But all these issue pale in comparison to the wonderful scripting feats, and great storytelling.

9/10, 6 brains.

I'm excited to see what Geomatrx will be able to do once he gets his hands on DROD 3.0 :)

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eytanz wrote:
I'm excited to see what Geomatrx will be able to do once he gets his hands on DROD 3.0 :)
*in a fortune teller's voice*
Look into my secret tag, and see the answer to your question!
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:P

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12-18-2006 at 01:11 AM
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With what Geo's been able to put out so far, I wouldn't be surprised if he could do an accurate rendition of the Milkman's mind from Psychonauts. If you don't know what I'm talking about, you NEED to play that game. That level alone is worth the entrance fee. And the rest of the game is fantastic as well.

Uh...to go back on topic...fantastic like this hold!

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12-18-2006 at 01:31 AM
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Chaco wrote:
Alright, mastered.

The concept illustrated behind the Master Wall is very, very cool. :)

I'd have to disagree with jbluestein's opinion that Temple Gardens 1N1W is the hardest room; I'd say Dungeon Cells: The Entrance (after beating the Pit) is the hardest room.

Well, now, hey...I didn't say it was the hardest room. I haven't conquered the hold yet. I just said that it was an evil puzzle. And it turns out that I missed an easier way to solve it. Were the only solution the one that I had found, the room would definitely count as an evil room. As it is, it was only evil for me.

Josh

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12-18-2006 at 04:22 PM
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Mastered it! It's the best hold I've ever seen, it has everything: Fantastic scripting, good storyline, very good puzzles and even a few minigames!! The thing you get to see when you mastered it is a fantastic concept and looks very promising. This sure is a hold everyone should have played at least once, I gave it a 10 rating and a 7.5 brains.

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12-18-2006 at 07:41 PM
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Wow this hold is the highest rated hold right now! Congrats, g! Maybe the next MetDROiD could be a SmS! :P
12-18-2006 at 09:37 PM
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Completed & mastered.

Amazing hold, scripting, everything.

To me, it's like playing a different game, if that makes sense.

Since I haven't rated any holds ever, it would be unfair for me to do so with this one, suffice to say it would get top marks :)

Keep up the excellent work.

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Still struggling. Wandering lost around the forest, unsure what to do next. (Feel free to PM with advice.)

But: I recently played MetDROiD Prime, and enjoyed it more than I had expected (I think I had a bad experience with the first one, and had delved briefly into Prime before getting stuck). And I'm enjoying this one even more. I've got huge amounts of respect for geomatrx for putting this together; the thought that went into the geography and the scripting are both impressively immense.
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Tahnan wrote:
Still struggling. Wandering lost around the forest, unsure what to do next. (Feel free to PM with advice.)

I'd be happy to offer advice but you first need to provide a less vague explanation of where you're stuck - PM me with the last thing you unlocked.

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You can always find a checkpoint, walk on and off it a few times, restore to the last item you got and check what it opened up, then restore back to where you are now.
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Geomatrx, what is the inscription on the Winter factory 1S3E and 2S3E? Being displayed on the mini-map screen, the passages in these rooms form some kind of hieroglyphs arranged in two columns. Or should I go and see psychiatrist? :-)
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Ha ha, the fixed-function fallacy got me good.
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Unstuck--zex PM'd me, and it turned out I'd missed a path that zigzagged north through some dead trees.
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Geomatrx, what is the inscription on the Winter factory 1S3E and 2S3E? Being displayed on the mini-map screen, the passages in these rooms form some kind of hieroglyphs arranged in two columns. Or should I go and see psychiatrist? :-)
Ha! I wish I had thought of doing something like that. I don't think it spells anything though.

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I'm sad, since I have mastered this hold, and can't play it any more.
As I said earlier.. incredible. Just incredible. I will be adding my 10/10 rating in a minute..

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I'm sad, since I have mastered this hold, and can't play it any more.
As I said earlier.. incredible. Just incredible. I will be adding my 10/10 rating in a minute..

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I don't think so - the same is true for me.

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tokyokid wrote:
Wow this hold is the highest rated hold right now! Congrats, g! Maybe the next MetDROiD could be a SmS! :P

Still there is a hold with higher rating. :P

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Superb hold, I enjoyed every second of it, even searching for the last few secrets. My only slight gripe is that the big boss combat rooms could have been a bit shorter and a bit richer in checkpoints.

I'm heartily looking forward to the sequel. You do need to come up with a title though. :P

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