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Chaco wrote:

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How about a compromise?
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You're right, that's a lot better.

Jeff_Ray, you don't need to play Passing of the Hold with the Passing of the Hold player file, you only need to edit it and add rooms with that file.

No, i mean to playtest the rooms.

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To playtest the rooms, you can F5 in the editor... can't you?

It's got to be something wrong with your DROD installation. Talk to mrimer.

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Chaco wrote:
Hey Kevin, have you solved 1E yet? The original version had two more holes, but I found it too hard, especially for others who wouldn't know the solution.

Well, I know what is required, of course. I can easily get the holes on the top filled, but I'm having some trouble getting them into the bottom to fill those holes...

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File: The Passing of the Hold.hold (8.2 KB)
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New version, including Canadian Army's latest room, "created" by PassingOfTheHold.
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Alright then.



After that, you just catch it on the upper-right hand corner of the two walls, then you can continue.

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Kevin forgot to make Robin's room accessible after he copied and pasted it, so I made it so.

Also, I added a checkpoint by the stairs for a completed level, and made it possible to backtrack through 1E after completion, thereby not requiring you to progress eastward.

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So who's next?
Nice room Canadian Army!

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Why thank you, I used the idea from a previous hold of mine

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Chaco wrote:
Kevin forgot to make Robin's room accessible after he copied and pasted it, so I made it so.

Yes - I just sort of copied-and-pasted it, not realizing I had to put a green door in the room before it...

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tokyokid wrote:
So who's next?
Nice room Canadian Army!

I think Jason is next...

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I'll be after Jason, I guess

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After Jason is Chaco, then me. You can be after me.

By the way, I have now managed to beat them all, except Canadian_Army's latest room. I was sort of close the last few times, but still too slow...

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There's a trick that makes the room a lot easier.



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Yes, I figured out the trap door thing, but I'm still a few moves short...

I use the first decoy to lure the roach in the top left away from the arrows, the 2nd decoy to kill the mud baby (If I don't, the queen gets stuck there with it, and I can't kill either), and the third decoy to wake the eye. I leave the brain. As soon as the eye is out of its trapdoor path, I drop that trapdoor, and kill the queen / roach on the force arrows just above me. I then go over and kill the queens and roaches on the left edge, dropping that trapdoor to cut the fuse before it gets there, and staying along the left edge (or near it) until the roach in the top left is blown up. I then go back and kill the eyes, only to be about a dozen moves short of the bomb.

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Alright, here's what you should do:



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Kevin_P86 wrote:
After Jason is Chaco, then me. You can be after me.

Okay.
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Ok, I just did it - saved a few moves here and there...

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tokyokid wrote:

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After Jason is Chaco, then me. You can be after me.

Okay.
Up-to-date list:
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Kevin_P86
Chaco
Tokyokid

That would be

Jason
Chaco
Kevin_P86
tokyokid

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File: PassingOfTheHold.player (13.1 KB)
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In case anyone is interested, here is the player file with all of the current rooms complete. The bottom-right-most checkpoint in 1E should restore to a point in which the blue door is dropped. Also, the point at which you "Continue Playing Game" should be that same spot. At least that's how it is for me...

Edit: I chose that checkpoint rather than the one behind the blue door because if another required room is added, the blue door will be back up and it won't help.

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Oh wait, I just realised something.

I solved Canadian Army's room by killing the brain first, which happened to stop the roach queen. Kevin solved it by not killing the brain first.

I wonder which way is more efficient?

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Well it took me 199 moves, but that's by no means optimal with that particular approach...

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Chaco wrote:
To playtest the rooms, you can F5 in the editor... can't you?

It's got to be something wrong with your DROD installation. Talk to mrimer.

Yeah, i know. Everything works in the editor, but when playtesting, not a move works. Enter bugs too.

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Yeah, that's weird and shouldn't be happening. I'd post about it in the bugs forum.

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Yeah, i know. Everything works in the editor, but when playtesting, not a move works. Enter bugs too.

Did you try changing the movement commands in 'Change Settings'?

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Sorry! I am very busy with the start of school and other things so I think I will have to skip my turn! Sorry!

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That's okay.

Well, that makes me next, so I suppose I'll add another room. Coming right up!

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Huh. Now I'm experiencing the same problems as Jeff_Ray is - after F5ing to play the room I made, I was only able to swing - not move. Escape to go back to the editor worked fine though. :/

The best way to work around this is to just play through the room in normal mode, then restart and play again each time you make changes.

Here's the latest version with my fourth room - it's not hard, but it's not easy either.

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What do you mean by in normal mode?

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"play game". As in, the mode you use to play holds. That is, not in the editor.

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Well, the player file attached above uses

789
UIO
JKL

for movement. If you use those keys, or change them in Settings to whatever you want to use, movement will probably work for you.

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