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I've got the west and north sides done, just have the five tiles on the east to go.

I'm pretty sure that what I need to do is

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but I can't figure out how to do the first of those reliably. I did it earlier in the room, but I just sort of stumbled into the successful method.

How should I try to position the constructs before I go for it?
07-02-2014 at 07:45 PM
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The H&S effect is being stubborn here and I haven't gotten any advice, so I'll review what I've been looking at since I posted this in the morning..

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So which of these numerous approaches is closest to the right track, and if it's just a matter of positioning and monster order, can I get some kind of clue as to how to go about it?
07-03-2014 at 04:12 AM
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icon Re: The Second Sky : Constructs Warehouse 2 : 1 North, 1 West (+1)  
None of these approaches seem particularly close to the right track, assuming my solution to the room was the intended one. The closest is your last one, but my solution did not involve 'trapping' the roach any more than using constructs as walls to assist in manipulation, though it's possible that it might help depending on how you want to go about it (don't bother if it isn't working, it never did much for me).

Sorry about the somewhat vague hints, but if you're still struggling I'd be happy to give more clear information about how to do this part. It's hard to say more without being too specific.

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07-03-2014 at 05:23 AM
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Yeah, I need more specifics, I've been stuck on this all day.

For a start, did you get the roach to move straight down or is it more complicated than that?
07-03-2014 at 06:03 AM
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Okay, I'm trying something but can't quite get the constructs positioned right, this may be because it's not what I'm supposed to do or may be because I'm too tired right now.

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Am I on the right track now or is there a better way to arrange them?
07-03-2014 at 08:01 AM
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The roach can be made to move straight down to the arrows.

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07-03-2014 at 08:19 AM
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Thanks, got it now.

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07-03-2014 at 08:57 AM
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I can't do neither N nor E side. I can't come up with a way to hold roaches which move before constructs. Any more direct hints?
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E side:

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N side:

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07-07-2014 at 06:42 PM
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Thank you, finally solved this.
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I'm still having some trouble with this room. Am I on the right track?
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I have construct corpses on 1, 2, and 3. And the roach on 4.
07-12-2014 at 08:09 AM
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I can get them like this, this more what you are talking about?

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How do you set up the constructs on the west side?

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Thanks for the good hint. I'm current working on the E side, and not finding the hints above helpful because there's no way the roach can be coaxed to move east. Is there an exact pattern to follow?

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disoriented wrote:
Thanks for the good hint. I'm current working on the E side, and not finding the hints above helpful because there's no way the roach can be coaxed to move east. Is there an exact pattern to follow?

There are multiple possibilities to solve the east side.

One is to arrange the golems by movement order diagonally. This way when you step on the pressure plate, the golems will go south - and if you do it right, the roach will move with them as well.
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Thank you... that was a lot clearer to understand for some reason.

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icon Re: The Second Sky : Constructs Warehouse 2 : 1 North, 1 West (0)  
One more attempt at explaining the east side, because several red-herring hints left me puzzled, especially the diagonal line one.

I believe the intended, and elegant, solution is:

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icon Re: The Second Sky : Constructs Warehouse 2 : 1 North, 1 West (+1)  
Ah, that does sound like the intended solution. My rather more clumsy solution to the east part was:
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If you want to see the inside of someone's brain solving DROD puzzles, check out this solution attempt ....

Alex Diener: Construct Manipulations 1N1W

It doesn't actually end in a solution, but it's really close, and it's a great tutorial on how to manipulate constructs.

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