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Yes, that's what you're supposed to do.
05-19-2007 at 06:02 PM
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Ok, this is the 'Under 1 day till the submission topic closes' post. Yeah, the post where I warn you guys to make last minute checks and submissions. :)

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05-20-2007 at 01:03 AM
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Sorry. I can't play. I don't have time to finish my entry why i'v got some work today.

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05-20-2007 at 06:45 AM
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I'm not sure if I made it clear enough before, but remember, Each tarstuff, it's mother and it's baby is a separate element.

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05-20-2007 at 01:04 PM
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I'm just curious: is there any particular reason explaining why you brought this up again?
05-20-2007 at 01:18 PM
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Hmmm, I should also probably should make it clear that builders and all their commands and components should be considered as one element.

RE: Dex,
Yeah, I was checking through the submissions and I found I had failed to fully clarify some things (several people had made the same/similar mistake/s). Seeing as its partially my fault, I thought I ought to tell everyone.
(subtle hint that people should check their submissions, its not too late!)

Remember, you can only showcase ONE element

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05-20-2007 at 01:25 PM
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Oh man this is killing me :). I did come up with a 4th room, but it's quite unimaginative (so I don't want to include it in the finished hold) and am struggling to make a 5th before the deadline... wish me luck :P.
05-20-2007 at 02:19 PM
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I see ny entry already has a few downloads, but there is one room I want to ponder with a little. Would it be too inconvenient for me to update it at this point?

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05-20-2007 at 09:32 PM
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I'm quite sure he'll download again right after the deadline.
05-20-2007 at 10:38 PM
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welll maybe i should edit mine so that it is more focused, but it isn't exactly random slayers and guards (or veeeeerrrrry specific e.g. stalwarts vs. guards)

Edit: not in 6 hours though, not long enough, but if i am specifically asked to refine it I will...


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welll maybe i should edit mine so that it is more focused, but it isn't exactly random slayers and guards (or veeeeerrrrry specific e.g. stalwarts vs. guards)
Don't worry about that, I think the judges can really understand whether you are okay or not. And I think the judges will be more lenient since it's not your fault.

Although I must say it is nice to know that rules can be changed even on the very last day. At least I know I can better wait for the very last change before doing something...

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RE: Dex
You can get away with 4 rooms

RE: Noah
You can update at any time before the end time.
The multiple downloads is from my download manager.

RE: Nethro
Well you've got a very specific one. In your case, (because guards are not a TCB element) it's stalwarts.

Although I must say it is nice to know that rules can be changed even on the very last day. At least I know I can better wait for the very last change before doing something...

RE: Tim
:blush I can't say I'm impressed myself. I had actually stated
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*Elements that come hand in hand, like Gel Mothers, Gel and Gel babies, shall be left up to the entrant and the voters to decide which element was the focus.
I just failed to clarafy that it meant that each individual part of tarstuff was an element (thus tarstuff being 9 elements in total, with 3 of which(gel) are useable in the contest). The only real change I made at the last minute was that builders and their components are one element. I think in the future I'll have a last week lockdown, where after that I won't check through peoples entries and see where I stuffed up.

I'm very glad I didn't allow player roles. I've made enough confusion as it is.

EDIT: Feel free to mod me down, I think I deserve it.

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It's fine, NiroZ. Running a contest is not easy work, and no rule is ever safe from the clutches of ambiguity.

If it makes you feel better, know that at least one person, me, thought you did a good job with the contest and specified what was to be done adequately.

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05-21-2007 at 02:31 AM
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I just realised something that makes me a rather large goose. Erik has yet to release the illumination for this month. As such, I should be releasing a '3 day's after the illumination is released extension' to be flawlessly consistent.

So everyone, take a deep breath and say 'Thank God Erik's late, and NiroZ is a goose.' And then laugh.

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Ok, updated first post
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*Elements that come hand in hand, like Gel Mothers, Gel and Gel babies, are all considered separate elements. Same applies for the 3 different types of Pressure plates. Again, builders are an exception to this rule, and all of the components that make a builder should be considered one element.


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And one more thing. Does anyone have an objection to me making a rule that all holds should be compatible with DROD version 3.0.0?

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Well, I've been using the last beta build prior to TCB's release, just so you know.

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05-21-2007 at 03:29 AM
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Well, I've been using the last beta build prior to TCB's release, just so you know.

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Well you can use this program to convert back to 3.0.0. My main concern is that someone might be making use of the bug fixes that are in 3.0.2 r2, and thus not want to change.

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*inhales*

Thank God Erik is late and NiroZ is a goose.

I may have time to do what I originally intended.

Or maybe I'll fritter my time away again. :/

ho ho ho.
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Well, I've been using the last beta build prior to TCB's release, just so you know.

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Well you can use this program to convert back to 3.0.0. My main concern is that someone might be making use of the bug fixes that are in 3.0.2 r2, and thus not want to change.


Well, to be more specific, I'm still using Build 37. And considering the Build 38 changes listed on the TCB Beta board, none of my rooms should be broken. Unless I'm mistaken, aren't Build 38 and 3.0.0 the same thing? Since I have Build 37, I can't be sure.

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Well, to be more specific, I'm still using Build 37. And considering the Build 38 changes listed on the TCB Beta board, none of my rooms should be broken. Unless I'm mistaken, aren't Build 38 and 3.0.0 the same thing? Since I have Build 37, I can't be sure.

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Well I haven't checked your latest edit, but your hold did open fine in 3.0.2 r2.

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I was refering to changes in elemental behavior, just so you know.

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I only have the demo and it is 3.0.1 so willl I be able to test everyones entries?

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*Your entry must be compatible with DROD 3.0.0 or DROD 3.0.1. If you're using 3.0.2 r2, you can use this utility to make it compatible with DROD 3.0.0.
Hopefully this should sort out problems with people making their holds in different versions of DROD.

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where's the poll???

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What poll?

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Nooooooooooo wait!!! i have to use scriptConv on mine!!!
EDIT: hang on no i don't!

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*Elements that come hand in hand, like Gel Mothers, Gel and Gel babies, are all considered separate elements. Same applies for the 3 different types of Pressure plates. Again, builders are an exception to this rule, and all of the components that make a builder should be considered one element.

Okay, let me say that I don't think you are clear enough yet, and I want to ask for some clarification:

Now I can understand from this that if your theme is Gel Mothers, you cannot have a room with only Gel Babies.

What if your theme is Hot Tiles? Is it possible to have a room with Gel Mothers, and another with only Gel Babies? (For the obvious reason that Hot Tiles works well with Gel.)

Note that I am not even considering to enter this contest, so I think I am allowed to ask this question.

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Well, I don't know what NiroZ would say to that, but I always found that rule to be ridiculous. What I would say?

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It is left to the voter's discretion. Dot, point, end!
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Well, I don't know what NiroZ would say to that, but I always found that rule to be ridiculous.
Which rule are you referring to? And how exactly do you intend to vote?

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Now I can understand from this that if your theme is Gel Mothers, you cannot have a room with only Gel Babies.

What if your theme is Hot Tiles? Is it possible to have a room with Gel Mothers, and another with only Gel Babies? (For the obvious reason that Hot Tiles works well with Gel.)
You can have as many elements as you want in your hold. The issue is that you must highlight one of them. So if you have a gel clearing room, it's inevitable that you are going to have gel babies. But the fact that the puzzle revolves around Gel means that that is the element that you're showcasing. Same goes for a gel-hot tile room. The element that is the crux of the puzzle is the one that you're showcasing. Yes, sometimes a room might have multiple crux's, but as long as there is one familiar element throughout the hold, you should be fine.

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Note that I am not even considering to enter this contest, so I think I am allowed to ask this question.
What? You can ask questions even if you are concerned over people nabbing your idea's, PM me.

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