Jason
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Beauty over Brains.

Can you guess what this is going to be about? Probably. Can you guess every last insignificant detail? Hmmm? Wanna bet? Probably not. Well, for those that don’t want to bet, here are those details.

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General
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This is a contest in which you build a beautiful castle. This isn’t about puzzles so it gives a chance to people that aren’t puzzle geniuses to win!

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Story
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Every year, King Leenig made a new castle. Every year, the new castle was infested. So, one year, King Leenig called together his architects and told them that making castles was useless because he ended up spending five times the amount of making the castle, cleaning it! Then, one of his architects said:
“The roaches and monsters like dark, damp, dirty and disgustingly ugly places, right? Well, why don’t we make a castle that concentrates on being bright, dry, clean and beautiful?”
"Holy Hoobuffins!” exclaimed the king. “That might just work! Get to work on it immediately!”
So, the 1st Architect told the 2nd Architect, who told the 3rd Architect, who told the 4th Architect, who told the 5th Architect…. who told the 19,983rd Architect, who told you.
So, get going!

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Rules
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1. You must make a castle with at least nine rooms in which everything is as pretty as possible.
2. You can have up to 3 levels and a maximum of 27 rooms in all.
3. The beautiful things can be anything and can be on the outside of the castle or the inside, or the dungeon. Anywhere!
4. Custom Floors are not allowed. Just DROD 2 elements.
5. Puzzles are allowed but people won’t give you a higher rating for them.
6. You have until Local Time:12-31-2006 at 01:00 PM to make it.
7. Once they are ready, submit them to this submission topic and only I will be able to see them.
8. You can submit as many holds as you would like, but only the last one will count.
9. All the entries will be voted on in a rating poll.
10. Have fun!


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Prizes
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1st place gets 100 rank points and an item from the Prize Pile, 2nd place and 3rd place get 50 and 25 points respectively.

If this is your first official contest you have participated in, you get 10 rank points to encourage you to come back. Contests are awesome!

Ready, Set, GO!

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Chaco
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Awesomeness!

I'm assuming "pretty" is whatever the voters understand it to be, so there aren't set guidelines in how to make it pretty.

Again, awesomeness. I've practiced a bit in making castles in the editor for the DtD compilation, so I'll get started right away.

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Jason
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The voters will vote on which one best fits their opinion of "pretty".

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Elfstone
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Ohhhhh Jason!!!

I was reading this with delight thinking, " I can probably have a go at this and I'll enjoy it!" and then I read rule number 4.

What have you got against custom floors? they can be very pretty.

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Congratulations on hosting your first official contest!

I'm defiantly participating!

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Briareos
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Elfstone wrote:
What have you got against custom floors? they can be very pretty.

Sure they can, but I guess it's more of a "make a beautifully designed hold" than a "make a beautifully painted hold" contest...

Different skills at work and such...

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Finaly, a hold building contest that doesn't involve being devilishly hard! Yay!

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tokyokid wrote:
Congratulations on hosting your first official contest!

I'm defiantly participating!

What, someone told you not to?

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Bunches wrote:
Finaly, a hold building contest that doesn't involve being devilishly hard! Yay!

I agree with Bunches and I am in...

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Bunches wrote:
Finaly, a hold building contest that doesn't involve being devilishly hard! Yay!

What about Holds Al Dente?

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Elfstone wrote:
What have you got against custom floors? they can be very pretty.

And to think I spent an hour today designing custom floors in preparation for this contest. (Seriously, I did. Well, also for my own edification, to see if I could do it.) But I see the rationale; the contest focuses on one's ability to manipulate DROD, as opposed to general graphic design.

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Jason wrote:
4. Custom Floors are not allowed. Just DROD 2 elements.

Just to check: any limits on scripting? what about custom voices/sounds?

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Jatopian wrote:

Bunches wrote:
Finaly, a hold building contest that doesn't involve being devilishly hard! Yay!

What about Holds Al Dente?

That acualy involved thinking. I'm not a thinker.

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Question, is there a restriction on rooms??

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Elfstone wrote:
Ohhhhh Jason!!!

I was reading this with delight thinking, " I can probably have a go at this and I'll enjoy it!" and then I read rule number 4.

What have you got against custom floors? they can be very pretty.

Well, sure they can be pretty, but they basically remove the competition from being about DROD design skills to being about the best use of external elements.

Beside, you have nothing to worry about. In my opinion, while you use custom floors very well, your best work in Seasons were rooms which didn't use them.

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Timo006 wrote:
Question, is there a restriction on rooms??

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1. You must make a castle with at least nine rooms in which everything is as pretty as possible.
2. You can have up to 3 levels and a maximum of 27 rooms in all.

Does that answer your question?

EVERYONE READ THIS: Just to help testers not spend 100 hours on this, I added a maximum of 27 rooms in all.

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Jason wrote:
EVERYONE READ THIS: Just to help testers not spend 100 hours on this, I added a maximum of 27 rooms in all.

Oh, now you tell me after I've already done the layout for my entry, which is 30+ rooms. If there was going to be a restriction, you should have put it in when you started the first post. Now I have to start over.

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I was planning on making a three-floor castle, with, like, turrets!

It's simple really - if it takes absurdly long for somebody to see all of the castle, they can just vote it lower. But I am of the opinion that once rules have been laid, they should absolutely, positively not change unless absolutely necessary. And I doubt it's really a problem.

After all, nobody complained when over 20 holds were submitted the Holds Al Dente competition. We simply just had to spend longer testing them.

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I agree that a limit is not necessary. If we think a hold is to big and uninteresting then we will quite it and vote it lower. But, since you added the rule we will stick to it. I know how it goes when things you had not thought of come up so I understand the late ajustment. If there are more please PM me and let me know.

Also so as to Al Dente - even when the goal was "easy" puzzles the harder one scored higher, seems the only way is no puzzles or no reward for having puzzles.

1. You must make a castle with at least nine rooms in which everything is as pretty as possible.

Just felt that 3 level limit and re-read the rules now I noticed this. Is that 9 rooms in the castle or the hold?

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So Sorry. Would anybody mind if I changed it back?

Techant: At least nine rooms in the hold.

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techant
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Thanks for the info. Don't sweat it about the limit. You are brave to host a contest to start with.

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Chaco wrote:After all, nobody complained when over 20 holds were submitted the Holds Al Dente competition. We simply just had to spend longer testing them.

I'm sure people complained. No? Well, let me file a late complaint then - it was way too much. If judging this contest is going to require even half of the time commitment Al Dante took, I just can't do it.

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Chaco wrote:
After all, nobody complained when over 20 holds were submitted the Holds Al Dente competition. We simply just had to spend longer testing them.

But plenty of people expressed concern over the large amounts of holds. Its pretty undeniable that it was a mammoth task, and scared some people away.

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By the way, are we allowed to use Brains in the rooms?

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Maurog wrote:
By the way, are we allowed to use Brains in the rooms?

Well, brains do fall into the "DROD 2 elements" category for me, but maybe that's because I'm weird?

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Just to be extremly clear:

Limit is 3 levels with max 27 rooms for each one level(total room of 81), or max 27 rooms for the entire hold???

In this last case, it means that if we plan to use all 3 levels, we are forced to make them all 9 rooms. A bit restrictive to me...

But anyway, i will bring out something, in someway


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The rules are pretty explicit - you can have 1-3 levels (overall), and 9-27 rooms (overall). If you have more than 1 level, however, the rules say nothing about how you distribute the rooms - you can have one level with 1 room, one with 2 rooms, and one with 24 rooms, for example.


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Yep. What eytanz said. You can have any arrangement that:
1. Doesn't have more than three levels
and 2. Doesn't have more than 27 rooms.

PS. Thanks for the reassurance techant.

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Tahnan wrote:

Jason wrote:
4. Custom Floors are not allowed. Just DROD 2 elements.

Just to check: any limits on scripting? what about custom voices/sounds?

(poke poke)

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Pinnacle wrote:

tokyokid wrote:
Congratulations on hosting your first official contest!

I'm defiantly participating!

What, someone told you not to?