kieranmillar
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File: 2024 Stocking Fillers Compilation.hold (104.3 KB)
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Here's the compilation hold for the 2024 Stocking Fillers contest.

Authors should double-check all is OK with their entry, but also please feel free to make any changes you like, within reason. I'm happy for authors to fix unintended solutions etc if they want to so that the published hold is as good as possible. If you have any changes you want to make, attach your level in a new hold with the changes made and I can port it into the hold.

There is no rush, I am away over Christmas and don't expect to send this to the HAs in 2024.

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[Last edited by kieranmillar at 12-26-2024 05:20 PM]

Chaco
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Campfire Grove looks fine to me - the variables are working as intended, and setting/resetting the Gunthro player role is too.

Leaving the hold in the middle of it and coming back, as well as completing the hold and re-entering it after it's complete, all look fine too.

I only have one set of requested changes to address trivial solutions brought up during voting:

Please put deep water under each of the conquer tokens in each room. This will prevent putting the mimic directly on the conquer token in 1N. The other rooms will be for consistency.

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File: Who wants to build a snowman.hold (2.2 KB)
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Thank you for the compilation hold, the tiny snowman looks really neat!

I fixed my entry right away since I won't be able to play that much during these holidays. Here's what I modified in "Who wants to build a snowman?"

The entrance: I removed the NE roach since it is a red herring.
I added temporary force arrows to prevent the player from doing hard manipulation involving Halph, decoy, and a roach (like Chaco did).
1N: I added a vision token.

Let me know if you have additional feedback!

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Nuntar
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The Win Tar: All four rooms should have a fire trap at (8,25), toggled by the middle plate. (It has to be a fire trap and not an extension of the door, because with a door, you could carry out the same US by breaking three mirrors so the mud is also growing.)

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Dragon Fogel
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File: King Ebenezers Dungeon.hold (7.2 KB)
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Two changes to King Ebenezer's Dungeon.

-1N: Shifted things down by one row on the left so the pressure plates are in the same row. There's an extra tile of wall because I wanted to be sure that the same solution worked. Confirmed this is solvable.
-2N: Replaced the door at (7,7) with a fire trap. Now you can't tap it, so making Halph stop is a fail state.

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File: 2024 Stocking Fillers Copy.hold (75.6 KB)
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Added a hint for 1N in WVP.

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Xindaris
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File: 2024 stocking filler entry - Xindaris.hold (5 KB)
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Edited version of my entry to fix a few things and add a challenge to 2S1E.

More detailed notes on what's changed:


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Here are some links to Things!

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kieranmillar
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New version of the hold attached to the opening post. Changelog:

Campfire Grove
Added deep water below each conquer token in all rooms

Who wants to build a snowman?
Replaced both rooms with those in the provided update hold

The Win Tar
Added active firetrap at (8,25) in every room, toggled by the central plate

King Ebenezer's Dungeon
Replaced 1N and 2N with those in the provided update hold

Winter Variety Puzzles
Replaced 1N with that in the provided update hold

Stuff It!
Replaced 1N1E, 2S1E and 2E with those in the provided update hold

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File: 2024SFC Who wants to build a snowman The Entrance dang it Halph.demo (7.7 KB)
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Red XIII: Good change to Snowman The Entrance. That should make it clearer that roaches aren't involved with the Halph manipulation part.

Question: Would the puzzle still work if the pressure plates had scrolls on them, instead of force arrows? That would still prevent the player from placing a decoy on a pressure plate, but should help avoid the Halph issue that came up in my video and is now in this bug thread ( https://forum.caravelgames.com/viewtopic.php?TopicID=46321 ). (The northwest and northeast plates might need an extra wall adjacent to their northeast/northwest respectively.)

See attached demo, the bug can still occur even if Halph is trying to go to the northwest pressure plate, just because arbitrarily he decided to approach it from the southeast instead of the northeast or east.

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Thanks for the suggestion, which does indeed solve the Halph bug problem (I had no idea that Halph was so complex). However, I had to add two walls near the pressure plates, otherwise it is impossible (I think) to catch Halph in time and stop him on the pressure plate.

Please modify the following:

- Remove force arrows on the pressure plates and replace them with blank scrolls.
- Add walls at (4,4) and (31,4), for symmetry.


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kieranmillar
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New version of the hold attached to the opening post. Changelog:

Who wants to build a snowman?
Made the changes to the Entrance room requested by the post above this one.

komachi
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File: Bag of candies.hold (6.6 KB)
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Made changes to my entry.

kieranmillar
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New version of the hold attached to the opening post. Changelog:

Bag of candies
Replaced the level with the one in the updated hold in the previous post. I hope it all worked OK, it didn't like that the hold already had a Candy character so had to update the default script and apply the custom graphics manually.

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File: Snowball v2.hold (2.5 KB)
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Snowball v2

Fixed the bug where you can block the lower queens from getting out.
spoiler:

Moved the escape tunnel one row down to make it marginally easier to hit the orb in the candy cane.

Changed the ending text

Added green sister gate to prevent leaving through wrong staircase

Made some pretty snowflake patterns on the floor.

added brain to room

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kieranmillar
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New version of the hold attached to the opening post. Changelog:

Snowball
Replaced the level with the one in the updated hold in the previous post, including the ending text.

kieranmillar
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While I didn't expect to send this to the HAs in 2024, the HA queue cleared out unexpectedly quickly and every author has already submitted an update to their level.

I'll give it 24 hours. If nobody objects in that time I'll then submit this hold.

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To komachi: I just got around to playing the rest of the post-update entries.

I'm not sure it's possible to get two of the candies in Bag of Candies 1W after the room is cleared, with the new changes in place.

NW candy: The NW yellow doors are controlled by a multi-press pressure plate - this means that I can't toggle the gates remotely while Beethro is trying to go through them. Even if I e.g. put a decoy on the pressure plate, and have a puff slowly move towards the decoy to kill it, killing the decoy won't toggle the gates because unpressing that kind of plate doesn't perform its action.

Central candy (opened by S pressure plate): I don't think it's possible to use puffs to freeze the water tile (23, 2). In an empty room I don't think it's possible to press the plate (24, 5). So, I don't think it's possible to press the southmost plate (27, 30) which opens the way to the center candy.

Fortunately, all other candies are gettable either before or after clearing the room, and only 10 out of 17 are needed to exit the entry, so you don't softlock the hold if you miss these 2, but it would be nice if these two 1W candies were gettable by some method if you didn't get them while clearing 1W.

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Chaco
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Typo in Dragon Fogel's entry, 3N, the third scroll:

"Hey, is that a knock on me for working on Christmas Eve?" Beeethro asked

there is mistakenly a third e in "Beeethro".

This was apparently present in the original contest submission (cit ref https://youtu.be/TWH939_UQHM?list=PLPJnHh-qd0aAtnq8R23mSFHErI4G8uZGU&t=883 ), I just missed it at that point.

Fortunately that's an easy fix.

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Whoops! I am perfectly fine with that being fixed.

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Chaco wrote:
To komachi: I just got around to playing the rest of the post-update entries.

I'm not sure it's possible to get two of the candies in Bag of Candies 1W after the room is cleared, with the new changes in place.

NW candy: The NW yellow doors are controlled by a multi-press pressure plate - this means that I can't toggle the gates remotely while Beethro is trying to go through them. Even if I e.g. put a decoy on the pressure plate, and have a puff slowly move towards the decoy to kill it, killing the decoy won't toggle the gates because unpressing that kind of plate doesn't perform its action.

Central candy (opened by S pressure plate): I don't think it's possible to use puffs to freeze the water tile (23, 2). In an empty room I don't think it's possible to press the plate (24, 5). So, I don't think it's possible to press the southmost plate (27, 30) which opens the way to the center candy.

Honestly, didn't think about getting the candies after clearing the room, my bad. Thanks for notice.
Kieran, can add a green door and a mimic potion in 1W (35,17) please?. That should solve both problems.

kieranmillar
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I uploaded a new version to HA with the typo fix in Ebenezer's 3N and the mimic potion behind a green door in Candies 1W. I can't tell if that replaces the version attached to the first post but I can't seem to edit the first post attachment anymore.