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RankEntryAverageStandard Deviation
1The sixth entry, Rise of the machine, deserves...8.51.2583057392118
2The third entry, Frosty Cabin, deserves...8.33333333333331.2472191289246
2The seventh entry, Temperature Anomaly, deserves...8.33333333333331.1785113019776
4The ninth entry, Gentryii Prison, deserves...81.7795130420052
5The fifth entry, Lord of Time, deserves...7.91666666666671.8911342863184
6The first entry, Gears within Gears, deserves...7.83333333333332.0344259359556
7The second entry, Even More Fluff, deserves...7.33333333333331.6499158227686
8The fourth entry, Interlude: The Scorching Path, deserves...6.41666666666672.0999338613924
9The tenth entry, Fluffy Factory, deserves...6.16666666666671.7716909687891
10The eighth entry, The 4 Great Ways to Use it, deserves...5.66666666666672.2110831935703
The first entry, Gears within Gears, deserves...
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Average Vote 7.8333333333333
Standard Deviation 2.0344259359556

The second entry, Even More Fluff, deserves...
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Average Vote 7.3333333333333
Standard Deviation 1.6499158227686

The third entry, Frosty Cabin, deserves...
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Average Vote 8.3333333333333
Standard Deviation 1.2472191289246

The fourth entry, Interlude: The Scorching Path, deserves...
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Average Vote 6.4166666666667
Standard Deviation 2.0999338613924

The fifth entry, Lord of Time, deserves...
12345678910
Average Vote 7.9166666666667
Standard Deviation 1.8911342863184

The sixth entry, Rise of the machine, deserves...
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Average Vote 8.5
Standard Deviation 1.2583057392118

The seventh entry, Temperature Anomaly, deserves...
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Average Vote 8.3333333333333
Standard Deviation 1.1785113019776

The eighth entry, The 4 Great Ways to Use it, deserves...
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Average Vote 5.6666666666667
Standard Deviation 2.2110831935703

The ninth entry, Gentryii Prison, deserves...
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Average Vote 8
Standard Deviation 1.7795130420052

The tenth entry, Fluffy Factory, deserves...
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Average Vote 6.1666666666667
Standard Deviation 1.7716909687891
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Time's up! Did you feel the Eighth turn?

Ten entries were received, all apparently valid, though I have no idea whether most entries satisfied the rule about being solvable :P Here they are for your delectation and deliberation.

This contest has no fixed criteria for judging entries. Please rate each entry out of 10 on overall quality, whatever you feel that means.

Architects are encouraged to rate their own entries 10, as some people will do this anyway, so it's fairest if everyone does it.

Voting is open until 3pm GMT on 9 December.

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11-25-2014 at 03:02 AM
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And here are the holds.

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11-25-2014 at 03:03 AM
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I quickly glued the holds together into one hold. No guarantees that it is working 100%. If something seems broken please refer to the official set of zips.

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11-25-2014 at 03:42 AM
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Had to post a new version because the hub did not reset player to beethro with sword on as player role which is a problem. So yeah. I still haven't included easy ways to leave any given entry, but you'll have to deal with it.

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11-25-2014 at 05:13 AM
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Has anyone solved Lord of Time: Silence in the Library?

It's the only room left for me and I'm not sure that it's possible.

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11-26-2014 at 04:04 AM
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Just checked: yes, it is possible. No more spoilers just yet.
11-26-2014 at 01:13 PM
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Well, I've wasted a lot of time, so I'll just think this through on here:
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11-26-2014 at 03:02 PM
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... I never said the solution was gonna be fair ;) Medium spoilers, might post something stronger later.

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11-26-2014 at 05:37 PM
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Ok, that is pretty cruel. It's also probably going to allow players to break a lot of timeclone rooms.

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11-26-2014 at 07:19 PM
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Yeah, maybe this would have been a better entry for the cheap trick contest. I still think of it as a feature and not a bug (it kind of makes sense after all), but I admit it's not really intuitive.

Not sure if it really breaks many rooms, but I think I may post about it in the bugs session once this contest is over to make sure whether this is intended or not.
11-26-2014 at 09:15 PM
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Can you PM me a description of the trick used? I'd like to be able to decide how I feel about it in plenty of time before the contest closes and I make the compilation. I don't want a room that depends on a trick that may be a bug and may end up being taken out.

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11-26-2014 at 09:31 PM
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I don't think it's a bug. The only reason I expect it to break things is that people who build rooms will have to be aware of this trick because it's something that will be exploitable in many rooms.

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11-26-2014 at 09:59 PM
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The trick in the library room isn't entirely new.
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Changing it would be silly, IMO.

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I've updated the hold I posted with the new level. It appears that it will eat your demos for that level and probably your saves.

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I just wanted to say that now I've had a chance to play all of the entries that I thought the overall quality of the entries in this contest was extremely high. Well done to everybody who entered. There's a whole bunch of good levels here.
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Alright, I've now voted. Here's my comments, behind the standard unhidetime tag:


Gears Within Gears
Score: 7/10

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Even More Fluff
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Frosty Cabin
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Interlude: The Scorching Path
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Lord of Time
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Rise of the Machine
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Temperature Anomaly
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The 4 Great Ways to Use It
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Gentryii Prison
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Fluffy Factory
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Here's a victory demo for Rise of the Machines 2N1W (for a chat discussion held today). A description is behind spoiler tags for those who haven't solved the room yet:

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This should work in the latest version of the Elemental Showcase in One Hold hold.

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And as part of the same chat discussion, here's the more complex solution that is apparently closer to what's intended.
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Here's one where I kill all four out of the way.

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Okay, I'm at my wits end here. I've completed the required room in all the holds save one room in temperature anomaly (which i think I've almost got a solution for) and about HALF of gentryii prison.

I just don't seem to have a good feel for the gentryii element yet and these rooms are absolutely driving me nuts. The worst part is that there do not seem to be many different possible variations on how to move, so it feels like I should be able to brute force a solution, but I feel like I've tried everything. Gentle hints would be greatly appreciated for 1S, 1S1E, 2S2E, and 1N2E.

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Of the rooms you listed I've only solved 1S1E, which is pretty simple because you can switch between any of the Beethros at any time. You can also have them step on the plates to allow one of the Beethros through the gates.

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Insoluble wrote: I've completed the required room in all the holds save one room in temperature anomaly (which i think I've almost got a solution for)

Just for my own interest, is this the secret room 1N2E?
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Of the rooms you listed I've only solved 1S1E, which is pretty simple because you can switch between any of the Beethros at any time. You can also have them step on the plates to allow one of the Beethros through the gates.


Oops, I meant 1S2E, not 1S1E. I actually finally managed to clear 1S and 1S2E last night thanks to some excellent hints from Crimson Moon in Carvel Chat. Thanks so much Crimson Moon, you are awesome! Only two more to go.

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Insoluble wrote: I've completed the required room in all the holds save one room in temperature anomaly (which i think I've almost got a solution for)

Just for my own interest, is this the secret room 1N2E?


Actually no, it's the one right before it. I haven't spent much time on secret and unrequired rooms yet. I wanted to conquer each hold first before worrying about mastery. Ironically, the only secret room out of all of these holds that I did complete is the other secret room from Temperature Anomaly (1S2E I believe). I decided to break my own policy of skipping secret rooms until the end just because it looked like it would be fun! So yeah, I believe that 1N1E is the one I still need. I'm not at my home computer though, so I can't look it up directly. It's the one where...

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Thanks! I finally got it. What a fun room!

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I just don't seem to have a good feel for the gentryii element yet and these rooms are absolutely driving me nuts. The worst part is that there do not seem to be many different possible variations on how to move, so it feels like I should be able to brute force a solution, but I feel like I've tried everything. Gentle hints would be greatly appreciated for 1S, 1S1E, 2S2E, and 1N2E.


I'm struggling with 2S2E right now. I figured out how to get the gentryii to 15,14 but I don't know how to move it from there back to the PP.

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The results are in!

I'd be more worried about the rise of the new architects than the rise of the machines... three entries were from first-time contestants and they all did very well.

Nonetheless, Rise of the machine by Red-XIII is our first-place winner. Congratulations! You win 100 rank points and your choice of a prize from the prize pile.

Before the submission deadline, there was a lot of speculation in chat over which elements would be most popular. Two entrants chose to walk the road less travelled, and were surprised to find themselves not alone.

Fittingly, Frosty Cabin by Chaco and Temperature Anomaly by kieranmillar are tied for second place. Chaco wins 50 rank points; kieranmillar wins 50 for second place and 10 for being a first-time contestant.

I'm very glad we received one submission using my favourite new TSS element. Third place goes to Gentryii Prison by Crimson Moon, who walks away with 25 points plus 10 for being a first-time contestant.

Our final first-time contestant was Insoluble, whose Gears Within Gears made a very creditable fifth place. He receives 10 rank points.

This was blorx1's eighth contest (including "Guess the number of rooms in TSS", which hasn't been added to the Master List yet). He is eligible for an 8-timer prize. Chaco, who has competed in no fewer than thirty-one contests, will receive an 8-timer prize next time.

Finally -- huge congratulations to everyone who entered! I was enormously impressed with the quality of all submissions.

I will now start working on the compilation hold. Please inform me if you do not want your entry included -- I will assume all entries are to be included unless informed otherwise. For entries with differing hold and level titles, I will assume the hold title is to be used as the level title in the compilation unless informed otherwise.

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Hi guys!

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Wow, I'm really really happy that you liked my entry that much, and I can assure you that after playing "Temperature Anomaly", "Frosty Cabin" and "Gentryii Prison" I had no idea I could compete with these, they were my favourites. But overall the quality was really high, I had lot of fun with almost every entry, congrats to all of you!

About the prize pile, I'm not sure if I understood well what I can claim; if these two that I'm going to say are avaible I'd like your opinion since I really don't know what to choose:
1) Downloadable version of DROD RPG: Tendry's Tale
2) Smitemaster's Selections, specifically Beethro's teacher since I'm really curious to witness its difficulty.

If these are avaible, what do you suggest?
If not, what can I claim?

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I have to agree with Nuntar - in my opinion, almost all entries in this contest ranged from "very good" to "excellent". I was especially pretty pleased with the two thin-ice-entries, an element in which I must confess didn't see much puzzle potential until now. But also the levels showcasing elements like constructs or gentryii were well done, though you might think they've already been elaborated thoroughly in the main hold. The winners definitely deserve it, though that doesn't mean the other entries were much worse

A few notes about my entry: So yeah, this was basically my take at a Doctor Who / DROD crossover. Of course I'm too bad of a writer to do either of them justice, but I liked the idea, so I tried anyway.
I guess I misinterpreted the contest rules for "find the most obscure interactions of that element" a bit, but I think some of the rooms (like Blink) turned out quite okay, anyway. And I personally still like the Library :P
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Do you have a complete list of the entrants?
If so, stick them here and I'll add them to the Master List.
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