Angel2506
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This room is frustrating me!!!

Do I start at right or left section?

When I begin in the right section, having killed all the roaches, I am told I am wrong as I leave the section!

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Angel2506
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Thanks Jeff but do I begin at the right section where the arrow is, or the section on the left?

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I did the right section first; from looking at the other high score demos, this appears to be the popular choice.

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well, here I am again This room seems impossible to clear at the queen in the lower lefthand corner produces offsprings and I am able to clear the rest of the room but not this group in the lower left as once you under there is no way out.

I have tried to stay invisible during the spanning time (30) and that seems to work on most of the queens. But, this one? and the offspring?

There must be a trick here. Could it be the citizen? This graphic is what I am talking about.

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Here is where I end up. Suggestions?

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There's no trick.

The only thing the citizen do is, to say something different if you take the potion near the checkpoint first.

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Interesting solution ... how does one not let the queen spawn when it is necessary to become visible once during a least one time when the clock strikes 30? But, hey, I will look into the potion as I don't recall seeing it or do you mean the vessle that makes you visible/invisible?

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Easy.



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Look at the graphic. If I move to the potion circled in red then the spawns of the queen by the two yellow circles will eventually move to the yellow circles, hence unreachable (in my opinion). In addition, the blue queen will move to an unreachable position in the trapdoors above and to the rigtht of her. If I follow the black path I can easily clear the middle and right-hand columns of monsters. But, then the roaches by the yellow queen will eventually move to the yellow circles. Thus, although I know better, it doesn't seem possible to clear the room. The spawns of the yellow queen cannot move more than 2 squares from her else there are in the yellow circles.

So, what is the strategy here?

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It's easiest to go for the left hand section first, although either is possible.

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It is not clear to me what you mean by the "1st potion". Is this the right hand one in the left column, i.e. the one that I was going to last as indicated by the black line?

I can get the northern most queen in the left hand column but then I always end up with roaches in the two yellow circles which means I will be stuck at one of those "arrows".

Can you please refer to my graphic here or above to indicate a possible strategy?

Thank you from a tired, frustrated old man

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Here's a demo file of my first few moves in this room.

How to view a demo:

1. Go to the room.
2. Press F6.
3. Select "Import".
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Tim:

Thanks. At least I see how you started. Too bad you got stuck in the middle top getting that queen. By the way, how are you making the demo if you are already past this level? Always wondered how this was done.

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wiseoldman wrote:
By the way, how are you making the demo if you are already past this level? Always wondered how this was done.

you have to restore the room at "room start" (or at the point you like) and play it again. to record the demo you have to press F5, ESC will finish recording...

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F1 in-game will bring up the Help menu, which does cover a lot of the demo stuff and perhaps many other things you aren't aware of yet. Might be worth checking out, not everything is covered in the tutorial. (For example, some people don't realize that you can Undo a move. I forget what the default key is but you can set it in the Settings screen.)

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Well, by waiting while invisible I was able to clear the room but now I can't get out! I didn't realize there was no way back to the east

So, what did I miss this time? ? ?

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HA HA HA ..... I couldn't see the opening as it was not clear to my old eyes

So on to the next level ..... thanks to all

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Oneiromancer wrote:
Might be worth checking out, not everything is covered in the tutorial. (For example, some people don't realize that you can Undo a move...)

This is covered in the tutorial.

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mrimer wrote:

Oneiromancer wrote:
Might be worth checking out, not everything is covered in the tutorial. (For example, some people don't realize that you can Undo a move...)

This is covered in the tutorial.

Um...oops? I did at least test the tutorial all those years ago, I guess I forgot that. I also guess I shouldn't assume that everyone new to a game will play the tutorial...

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Here's the problem for me:



Roach queen 1 always goes to 2, where it is impossible to get out.

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So clearly you need to enter that section of the room before you move to the West side.

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Yes but then the queen lays eggs, and when I turn visible, the offspring gets trapped.

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Snacko wrote:
Yes but then the queen lays eggs, and when I turn visible, the offspring gets trapped.

You need to get the invisibility potion before any eggs are laid.

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Snacko wrote:
Yes but then the queen lays eggs, and when I turn visible, the offspring gets trapped.

you come from the east, right? there are two invisible potions you can reach within the first spawn cycle. and one of thos both avoids that this queen gets stucked in the trapdoors. also it defines the first part of your way!

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Actually there was one, but I still saw how I could not make it run the wrong one after looking more closely. Thanks.

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