billbuckner
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Any tips on this room? It's been driving me absolutely nuts. I have no idea how to go about doing it!

billbuckner
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Things I found:
I can not play DROD
I should not play DROD
I should always check that I am REALLY stuck before using the hints board.

rowrow
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Just look through the room and look for places that you can cut the tar and pass through. Plan, don't just cut all the tar in front of you.

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Chopper
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Played this through a few times, have seen some mistakes, but regardlees of what I do, it seems that it always generates 1 guy back into the entrance passage that there is no way to return to later. Whazzup?

Oneiromancer
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It is definitely possible to return to the entrance passage later. You will need to cut the tar accurately in order to do so though. There are two different ways to get through the very first patch of tar when you start the room...one of the methods in reverse will allow you to return.

Game on,

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Nixxter666
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Call me stumpy, I agree with the original (long ago) poster because this room is really frustrating me and I'm not getting any better

I can get to the tar mother and stop her from making babies (gee, that sounds like planned parenthood!). But then I end up trapped and can't make my way out of either of the two corridors that lead off from her lair because it's all uncuttable tar (or, quickly becomes uncuttable).

Any further hints, suggestions (or, it may be tough enough that attaching a demo (no matter how pretty!) could be my only hope.

I'd hate to give up here (but have a feeling I'll get through some how!).

Chaco
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If you don't really (and I do mean really) understand tar and how it works, you might want to practice a bit before you try this room.

Tips:







It's a pretty nasty room. Good luck.

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Tuttle
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Nixxter666
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Thanks Tuttle and Chaco! For the tar lessons (and support too). I'm not giving up. I'll report back (hopefully with a victory dance!).

Update! With your helpage, the room went down quickly tonite. Think I was just "tarred" last nite and it was a bit easier tonite. The tar lesson on just cutting on the corner in particular was a help!

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[Last edited by Nixxter666 at 03-07-2006 03:29 AM]

nthev
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I'm finding this a really tough hold. Anyone got a demo that they can post to encourage me to keep going?!

Thanks
Nthev

Rheb
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File: JtRH Twelfth Level 2N3E Victory.demo (4.6 KB)
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Here's my really long demo. Just watch the start, you'll get the rest. (I really ought to optimize JtRH some day.)

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Briareos
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File: JtRH Twelfth Level 2N3E Victory.demo (4.4 KB)
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nthev wrote:
Anyone got a demo that they can post to encourage me to keep going?!

Yeah, that room can be quite frustrating... here you go.

np: Luomo - Gets Along Fine (Convivial)

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zwetschenwasser
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File: JtRH Twelfth Level 2N3E Victory.demo (4.7 KB)
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In honor of the post collision, I'll also post my horrible demo.

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Briareos
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Rheb wrote:
(I really ought to optimize JtRH some day.)

Well, whenever I post a hint I use that as an opportunity for optimization as well...

np: Rhythm & Sound ft. Bobbo Shanti - Poor People Must Work (Carl Craig Remix) (See Mi Yah Remixes)

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nthev
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Thanks for the demos zwetschenwasser & Briareos. Its encouraging to see it done - and that basically I'm on the right track - just need to hone my skills!

Thelas
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File: 12L2N3E JtRH.jpg (239.5 KB)
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Is the position in the image solvable? If so, can I get some hints? [the very left is the problem for me.]

jbluestein
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Thelas wrote:
Is the position in the image solvable? If so, can I get some hints? [the very left is the problem for me.]

'The very left' still covers a fair bit of territory.

I can't tell from looking at it exactly whether the room is solvable from this position. I have a few concerns -- I think you would need to be able to get through the tar blob that's due south of Beethro in order to clear out the bottom, and it's not clear to me that you can do it. (Although I am not sure.)

My guess is that if you can go due south, you're all set...and if not...well, not all set.

Josh

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Thelas
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Got it! H&S magic, I suppose?

(it was solvable from there, as what I just said might imply)

now let's just hope I don't have another tar level coming up.

Jinan Dangor
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Just a heads up to people still having trouble:

From what I can tell, the trick with this room (or at least the problem I was having) doesn't hinge on your tar-removal strategy, it depends on: