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So the general shape of this room is simple enough - wake up the eyes, ferry them over to the mainland, get them to follow you through the passage and close it behind you.

But there are two problems. The first is move order. It seems the eyes have to be in exactly the right order or some of them will break off and go through the other end of the passage.

The other issue is timing the orb hit so that, if I do somehow get the eyes lined up properly, the far end of the passage actually closes when the last one is inside, and not too early or too late.

So my question is, how do I actually arrange these things to work? Because I'm not seeing any good options.
08-20-2024 at 12:06 AM
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I realized that due to the orthosquare, the eyes wouldn't try to back out of the passage, so I don't have to worry about timing. But lining up the eyes still feels very unreasonable. I even managed to flail around enough to get them in order... but the last eye still moved north. Apparently I had to have it further south.

So I think I'm just going to ask for a demo here.

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08-20-2024 at 02:37 AM
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Seemed like pure trial and error to me too. Here is the movement order I ended up with:

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icon Re: Parity & Flow: Phase I : 3: Starry Eyes : 3 South, 1 West (0)  
Yeah, I ended up having to do a bit of movement order fiddling around too - although it might be that pulling the eyes off the south end of the island leads to better movement orders than pulling them off the left end.

Using the sword to keep the horde at bay and let the earlier-move-order eyes overtake the later-move-order ones seemed to help too.

Demo attached.

My final movement order ended up being:

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so I think it's mostly about getting the front eyes in order than the back eyes being in a particular order.

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08-20-2024 at 03:31 AM
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icon Re: Parity & Flow: Phase I : 3: Starry Eyes : 3 South, 1 West (+1)  
I hope it's a surprise to no one that move order was never even a consideration for me while building/testing this room. It always worked out fine if I just
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So I never noticed that it even might be a thing the player'd have to think about.

...A quick restore to check my own solution finds the move order to be...
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08-20-2024 at 04:47 AM
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So it turns out there were two big things I was missing.

One:
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Two:
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Still not very fond of the room, but taking advantage of those things made it more bearable.
08-20-2024 at 04:22 PM
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