Snacko
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In a recent trip to the Architect's Association, I have found that there is actually a command to make blue doors open prematurely. An investigation of any meetings between the Architect's Association and Smitemaster's Guild will be held over the next few months.



Shown here is a secret entrance to one of these so-called "Secret Rooms".



Clearly seen here are a pack of Wraithwings, the breeding has not been serious at that point and luckily one of the few honest Smitemasters left has cleared these out.

As citizens we can not stand for this atrocity. These are plans that may ruin the conditions of those being tortured to death.

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Mattcrampy
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Look, if these rooms are sealed up with monsters still inside, what makes you think the monsters are going to be able to get out?

Oh. Well, yes, I am aware that wraithwings can fly and that your example isn't exactly a sealed entrance, but don't you think it's a bit unreasonable to expect us to not only put our lives on the lines clearing these places out, but to be psychic as well? How are we supposed to know where the dungeon used to extend to? Why, you might as well say there are rooms there that weren't even on the plan, for all the sense you're making!

If the clients are serious about wanting us to clear out every room, they should get the blueprints off the architect. They've been terribly uncooperative with us, so really our hands are tied.

And I'll miss Baywatch.

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eytanz
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I should point out that this is JtRH - Beethro wasn't even on contract, he was freelancing. There were no clients to complain...

(I'm glad that it wasn't a KDD 2.0 secret room used to make the seeding argument )

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Snacko
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Yes, but the figure of the room as well as the curion "Secret Room" dialogue that mysteriously appears above a Smitemaster whenever he enters shows that the architect must have put it in the hold intentionally.

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Briareos
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*whooosh* (sound of the point of this thread going right over my head)

In other words: HUH? Could someone please explain what this is all about?

np: Björk - All Is Full Of Love (In Love With Funkstörung) (Additional Productions)

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I think Snacko is trying to do some Eighth role-playing and since I don't think anyone does that around here, it's throwing people for a loop. I know it took me a while to decide if he was being serious. or not.

Game on,

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Hmmm. We really need a role-playing topic. (Or even better, a forum. Maybe a sub-forum of Forum Games?). I know I'd play.

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*smites*

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Snacko
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Seeding is the idea of leaving creatures alive in a dungeon during a smite job. This way they breed, the person that did "such a great job last time" is called again and thus makes more money. The idea is with the secret room option, the Architect's Association might be helping the Smitemaster's Guild do this.

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Ravon
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Architect's Association helping out the Smitemaster's guild? Yeah right. If a delver can't clear out the hold, he doesn't deserve to go further.

Snacko
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Yes, but perhaps tge seeding is intentional.

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Chaco
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Now, you see...

If people don't go down there nor use that area, is it really such a bad thing if there are monsters there? It's not like people are going to die if they can't get over there.

[hijack]

What troubles me more is... if Mobley is part of the Architect's Association, and the AA is in cahoots with the Rooted Empire... why did he help Beethro?

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Snacko
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What it comes down to is that people ARE hired to clear out these dungeons and it IS profitable for unfound monsters to breed.

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Snacko
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Is anyone else going to comment on this atrocity?

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Citrus
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Well, my story for the Golden Sword contest shows my view on what is causing seeding, and why people SHOULDN'T stop it.

How's that for mysterious.

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Alneyan
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Ezlo wrote:
Well, my story for the Golden Sword contest shows my view on what is causing seeding, and why people SHOULDN'T stop it.

My own story gives the Question that goes with the Answer, and will also answer other miscellaneous questions if time permits.

Trouble is, revealing these secrets could damage the very fabric of the universe, so I'd better keep my story a secret lest we all stop to exist. That, ant that sort of excuse sounds much better than "my three hundred words sent me snorting".

Mattcrampy
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I wonder what would happen if I make out like I know why seeding actually happens.

I wonder what would happen if I spent five minutes on making decent sentences. I guess we'll never know.

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Snacko
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NEW DEVELOPMENT!!!!



These "secret rooms" are often caused by the four thousand 400 and 44 foot long length cap for monsters commonly a condition for Smitemasters. This also means that the client is also often to blame. Of course, it is not logical that anyone willing to hire anyone and pay once would take money for it to happen again if they are fairly well-off. This photo specifically was taken by Beethro Budkin, the recently missing and presumed dead grandson of the famous Gunthro Budkin, on a job in King Dugan III, king of Dugandy. After inheriting his father's estate it is quite unlikely that Dugan would risk infestation, no matter how easily he could get away with it.

The interesting thing is, Vonnifa Budkin has recently delivered a letter to Budkin from Dugan talking about how Budkin had seeded the dungeon, even though the record books show that Budkin has in fact conquered the dungeon. He was last seen entering the dungeon claiming to be carrying a portable orb.

It is not at all clear who to blame, but as of now this development seems to be a common accident sprouting from common negligence.

sources: Erik Hermansen and the Caravel Team and first-hand accounts of those who wish to remain anomynous.

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Citrus
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"Bubkin?"

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Nobody ever said the media is good at spelling names...

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Snacko wrote:
NEW DEVELOPMENT!!!!



These "secret rooms" are often caused by the four thousand 400 and 44 foot long length cap for monsters commonly a condition for Smitemasters. This also means that the client is also often to blame. Of course, it is not logical that anyone willing to hire anyone and pay once would take money for it to happen again if they are fairly well-off. This photo specifically was taken by Beethro Budkin, the recently missing and presumed dead son of the famous Gunthro Budkin, on a job in King Dugan III, king of Dugandy. After inheriting his father's estate it is quite unlikely that Dugan would risk infestation, no matter how easily he could get away with it.

That just made me realise, there are peices of tar in KDD which are longer than that snake, so why did beethro have to clear out those rooms?(ie, lvl 24)

Alneyan
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Well, the exception clause for length only works for serpents, not anything else. Besides, tar has a surface rather than a length, so a different unit will be required (say, 911 square feet).

I wonder how many missed that this room on level 7 was not required (it's obvious in KDD 2.0, but not so in earlier versions). I know I went through level 7 four times, but the thought of "hey, is it required?" remained safely a good ten miles away from my mind.

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NiroZ wrote:

Snacko wrote:
NEW DEVELOPMENT!!!!



These "secret rooms" are often caused by the four thousand 400 and 44 foot long length cap for monsters commonly a condition for Smitemasters. This also means that the client is also often to blame. Of course, it is not logical that anyone willing to hire anyone and pay once would take money for it to happen again if they are fairly well-off. This photo specifically was taken by Beethro Budkin, the recently missing and presumed dead son of the famous Gunthro Budkin, on a job in King Dugan III, king of Dugandy. After inheriting his father's estate it is quite unlikely that Dugan would risk infestation, no matter how easily he could get away with it.

That just made me realise, there are peices of tar in KDD which are longer than that snake, so why did beethro have to clear out those rooms?(ie, lvl 24)

Tar isn't a monster, and there are plenty of rooms where Beethro is allowed to leave tar behind (long or short). So the rules are different, anyway.

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Snacko
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Well, it is actually living tar. So it is a monster, but tar babies are one tile long and tar mothers (the only living things in the tar) are 2 tiles long.

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eytanz
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If it doesn't affect green doors, it's not a monster. It's as simple as that.

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Snacko
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Not a monster, or just another corruption of the Architect's Association?

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eytanz
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I'm not sure what you mean by that. JtRH explains where tar comes from.

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Snacko
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I mean how the doors are configured toward the tar.

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eytanz
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You know, it would be a lot easier to know what you are talking about if you don't just make a lot of single-sentence quotes with no explanations. What doors are configured towards the tar? Black doors? Doors in KDD? How would they be a corruption?

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I think he clearly said here, Eytanz, how the door is configured towards the tar.

If you can't understand such /unabashed/ brilliance, you are a fool beyond my wildest imaginings.

what the jesus does that mean