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15 - Doom7.76190476190482.3279822022058
29 - michthro7.38095238095242.1707183466746
319 - Tuttle7.33333333333331.9599157740244
41 - Banjooie7.09523809523812.1135562877307
54 - Dali6.66666666666671.9354668031335
62 - Beef Row6.61904761904762.1263917677872
78 - Krishh6.57142857142862.2162050053753
820 - tyrion6.47619047619051.8928197061287
83 - Chaco6.47619047619051.7076591501944
1014 - skell6.42857142857141.6495721976846
1116 - techant6.33333333333331.9107050140704
1212 - Ostegolectrlc62.2466906880163
1318 - Tooth and Nail5.85714285714292.2527383185743
1410 - Muiff5.57142857142861.9166296949998
157 - jbluestein5.33333333333332.3367322183591
1615 - Someone Else5.09523809523812.5986216475509
1711 - NiroZ4.76190476190482.5802318445989
1817 - The spitemaster4.66666666666672.1894407490615
1913 - Plichard the VIII3.71428571428572.5475077857324
206 - Jason3.33333333333332.5510657592341
1 - Banjooie
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Average Vote 7.0952380952381
Standard Deviation 2.1135562877307

2 - Beef Row
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Average Vote 6.6190476190476
Standard Deviation 2.1263917677872

3 - Chaco
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Average Vote 6.4761904761905
Standard Deviation 1.7076591501944

4 - Dali
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Average Vote 6.6666666666667
Standard Deviation 1.9354668031335

5 - Doom
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Average Vote 7.7619047619048
Standard Deviation 2.3279822022058

6 - Jason
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Average Vote 3.3333333333333
Standard Deviation 2.5510657592341

7 - jbluestein
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Average Vote 5.3333333333333
Standard Deviation 2.3367322183591

8 - Krishh
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Average Vote 6.5714285714286
Standard Deviation 2.2162050053753

9 - michthro
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Average Vote 7.3809523809524
Standard Deviation 2.1707183466746

10 - Muiff
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Average Vote 5.5714285714286
Standard Deviation 1.9166296949998

11 - NiroZ
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Average Vote 4.7619047619048
Standard Deviation 2.5802318445989

12 - Ostegolectrlc
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Average Vote 6
Standard Deviation 2.2466906880163

13 - Plichard the VIII
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Average Vote 3.7142857142857
Standard Deviation 2.5475077857324

14 - skell
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Average Vote 6.4285714285714
Standard Deviation 1.6495721976846

15 - Someone Else
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Average Vote 5.0952380952381
Standard Deviation 2.5986216475509

16 - techant
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Average Vote 6.3333333333333
Standard Deviation 1.9107050140704

17 - The spitemaster
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Average Vote 4.6666666666667
Standard Deviation 2.1894407490615

18 - Tooth and Nail
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Average Vote 5.8571428571429
Standard Deviation 2.2527383185743

19 - Tuttle
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Average Vote 7.3333333333333
Standard Deviation 1.9599157740244

20 - tyrion
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Average Vote 6.4761904761905
Standard Deviation 1.8928197061287
Total Votes 32 100%
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Lets try this again. :D
06-05-2006 at 12:47 PM
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For those who were after a hold-to-person map in the last thread, I offer this:
01 Banjooie		Halph's First Hold
02 BeefRow		Ahimsa
03 Chaco		The Pacifist's Hold
04 Dali			--Contest 2006
05 Doom			Halls of Pacifism
06 Jason		TryContest
07 jbluestein		Death to Death Contest Entry
08 Krishh		King Ryui's dungeon of family friendly fun
09 michthro		Beethro the Pacifist
10 Muiff		Non-violent dungeon
11 NiroZ		Trails of no Death
12 Ostegolectr1c	Beneath Snoll
13 Pilchard the VIII	Death to Death competition entry
14 skell		PeaceMaker
15 Someone Else		Death to Death
16 techant		The Gauntlet
17 The spitemaster	Death to death
18 Tooth And Nail	Morkagen's Monster Santuary
19 Tuttle		The Race
20 tyrion		Nuthouse

06-05-2006 at 01:04 PM
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Thanks for the new poll, Ezlo!

I am finally able to register my votes! Fortunately, I took notes when I played all of these so the ratings are not stale.

I feel a need to justify a few of the low ratings I gave. I reserved my '1' ratings for entries that were either incomplete or seemed to be be completely not in the spirit of the contest. In that sense, the ratings don't necessarily reflect my opinion of the work, just a statement that the rules of the contest were not followed (fewer than nine rooms provided, or no real evidence of a 'no killing' theme).

Holds that couldn't be completed (that is, impossible holds, not just ones that I personally couldn't complete) got lower ratings as well (although not 1s).

Holds where I found monster-killing solutions got points off, depending on the severity of the error.

In all, I thought that there were more than a handful of very enjoyable entries. I look forward to the compilation!

Josh

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06-05-2006 at 03:45 PM
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By the way, I patched up my entry and fixed the two rooms that had bugs...err, allowed monster-killing in them. The new hold is on the submission topic so that the corrected version can appear in the compilation (if Ezlo actually decides to include all of them and not just the good ones).



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06-05-2006 at 03:50 PM
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This poll should probably be stickied (and the old poll unstickied?) so no one misses this.

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06-05-2006 at 10:31 PM
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I am really glad for this. I had been away, and was hoping to get in, but then the server crashed. I guess everyone (probably) was glad for this.
Thanks Ezlo. :hooray
06-06-2006 at 03:44 AM
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Let's mod Ezlo up.
06-06-2006 at 02:45 PM
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I'd really like to see some comments on my hold. It's my first one.

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06-06-2006 at 08:39 PM
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I'd really like to see some comments on my hold. It's my first one.


Hi Ostego --

I enjoyed the first room of your hold a good bit, but wasn't able to solve the second room (with the three guards). Nobody seemed willing or able to confirm that that room was solvable, so I ended up giving up. So not too much commentary all in all.

If that room is solvable, perhaps you could post a demo to the demos thread?

Josh

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06-06-2006 at 08:53 PM
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I'd really like to see some comments on my hold. It's my first one.


Hi Ostego --

I enjoyed the first room of your hold a good bit, but wasn't able to solve the second room (with the three guards). Nobody seemed willing or able to confirm that that room was solvable, so I ended up giving up. So not too much commentary all in all.

If that room is solvable, perhaps you could post a demo to the demos thread?

Josh


That room is solvable, but I don't think the hold is.. there seems to be a scripting error in the room with the rock golems (twice east), that would require you to solve the whole room in 50 moves (instead of just the first section as seemed to be intended).

Overall this is a very clever (sneaky, devious) hold though. Many counterintuitive solutions and tricks.

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06-06-2006 at 09:42 PM
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Sorry guys. That's how it happens when you decide to change the room in the last moment.

Here is attached an enyone edit verion that fixes the problem so you can see the last room and the ending text.




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You know, after the results of this poll come through, I'll be afraid to show my face in public... :lol

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06-07-2006 at 04:33 PM
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Pilchard, when your first room is 'blow everything up with a bomb', it somewhat dampens the 'non-violence' mood.
06-07-2006 at 06:08 PM
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You know, after the results of this poll come through, I'll be afraid to show my face in public... :lol


I wouldn't worry much. I didn't think your submission fit the contest at all, but I liked King Pilchard's Dungeon a lot and liked your submission on its own merits a fair bit.

Keep designing good stuff!

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06-07-2006 at 06:23 PM
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You know, after the results of this poll come through, I'll be afraid to show my face in public... :lol


In the first room I just couldn't see how to get out of the room without killing eyes so I moved on to another hold. If you have a demo I would like to see it so I can really look at the hold outside of using the build feature.

I did try to get the slayer to blow everyone up but I just couldn't do it and wondered if that was within the contest concepts. I don't want to mark you down cuz I can't get past the first room. :blush It looked like you put a lot of thought into your hold.

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06-08-2006 at 12:53 AM
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I, uh, you can kill the eyes. I killed all the eyes before I left, no less.
06-08-2006 at 03:17 AM
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Sorry, I felt too apathetic to assign votes to everybody, so I just clicked "view results". :?

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06-08-2006 at 08:56 PM
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12 hours left to vote!

Oh, and sorry that I'm not be able to vote this time, the main problem being that every room was either killable or too hard for me to do... (Okay, I was too busy doing other things, sorry.)

For those first time hold makers out there, I was really surprised that some of those rooms were really hard (and good)... I really need to download some of the demos sometime.

A special mention should be made to the tar block room in Chaco's hold. It took me a week to solve that one.

And Dali's hold was probably the most inventive, although very confusing. If you only play one hold in this contest, I would suggest this one.

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06-14-2006 at 09:11 PM
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Okie-Dokie! The winners have been decided!

Third Place: Tuttle
Second Place: michthro
First Place: Doom

Congradulations! King Ryui is proud of your achivement!

If some kind mod would hand out the rank points for me that would be greatly appreciated.

Plus, does anyone want to take over the compilation? It's proving too tough for me.
06-15-2006 at 12:33 PM
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Okie-Dokie! The winners have been decided!

Third Place: Tuttle
Second Place: michthro
First Place: Doom

Congradulations! King Ryui is proud of your achivement!

If some kind mod would hand out the rank points for me that would be greatly appreciated.

Plus, does anyone want to take over the compilation? It's proving too tough for me.


Normally, Erik does a mod-induced adjustment to your rank points, the main upshot of this being the lack of any modpoints whatsoever.

Looks like Doom gets another mug. :rolleyes

Congrats!
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So, um, I ended up not having time to look at, let alone play through, all the holds (I would have, had I downloaded them before the crash. But I figured I'll download them as I play them, so I only got 3 of them by then). So I didn't wasn't able to check who uses scripting or not.

But my offer still stands. I'll just use the honor system. If you built a hold that never uses a script to check for a monster death and thereby does something (closes a door, blocks a path, makes a monster appear behind Beethro, etc.) to make a room unpassable, post here and I'll award you 5 rank points.

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I didn't use any scripting, period. Must learn it one day. :)

Congrats to Doom for winning, and michthro for nudging me out of second place with less than a day to go.
06-15-2006 at 03:14 PM
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Cool. If both Michthro and Doom used scripting, you'll get another 20 rank points.

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No scripting in my hold!

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06-15-2006 at 03:27 PM
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Wow! Never thought I'd get a place. Congrats, Doom and Tuttle. That was very close. Think I beat Tuttle by one point!

I didn't use any scripting either.
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Ok, so I'm waiting for Doom (or until I have time to try out his hold myself) before awarding the +20 for highest ranking non-script using hold.

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I don't believe Doom used any scripting, but I could be wrong.
06-15-2006 at 03:49 PM
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Doom didn't use any scripting to prevent monster killing, so he gets 125 for the contest. Must be a record.
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Cool!

Well, I'll still wait on him to post here since I'm not an admin nor do I feel like ranking up a random post of his in another thread.

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No scripting!

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