tiberiusdw
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Quite an ingenious room!

I know I probably don't have to kill all the tar babies, but I can't seem to get to a "safe" area by the time all the bombs explode.



(1) seems like a red herring--doesn't protect me when the bombs go off.

So (2) seems like the way to go--but can't get there in time!

Any pointers?

Thanks,
tiberiusdw

HopelessAmateur
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Where bombs are concerned I recommend taking a screenshot of the explosion to find out where safe areas are.



[Edited by HopelessAmateur at Local Time:04-28-2005 at 04:24 PM]

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[Edited by rowrow at Local Time:04-28-2005 at 05:15 PM]

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tiberiusdw
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HopelessAmateur wrote:
Where bombs are concerned I recommend taking a screenshot of the explosion to find out where safe areas are.

Click here to view the secret text

×The black areas (1) and (2) are safe, but you DO need to kill all tar and mud babies to get into (1).

[Edited by HopelessAmateur at Local Time:04-28-2005 at 04:24 PM]

Thanks for your help, folks! I got it! Onwards.

tiberiusdw

eytanz
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rowrow wrote:

Click here to view the secret text

×Actually there are a couple places where you are safe and you don't have to destroy any tar or mud to get there.

[Edited by rowrow at Local Time:04-28-2005 at 05:15 PM]

What? Where?

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rowrow
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What, is this your room?
Spoiler. Don't look


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TripleM
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Rowrows right.. in fact, I even managed

(Though I solved it the intended way when I first did it)

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rowrow wrote:
What, is this your room?

Well, in the sense that I made it, yes.

Spoiler. Don't look

Click here to view the secret text

×1 2 3 4 5 I think

[Edited by eytanz at Local Time:04-29-2005 at 01:51 PM]

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eytanz wrote:

rowrow wrote:
Spoiler. Don't look

Click here to view the secret text

×1 2 3 4 5 I think

Click here to view the secret text

×Interesting... Oh well. It's hardly a trivial solution, since it requires very precise mimic positioning.

One such solution was actually eliminated during beta, but not all of them were (there are several still working - check the high score demos).

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yarnexpress
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I'm beginning to despair of ever entering the Dreamplane. This is my last room. Would somebody please share a "safe" spot in this room with me? I can't see the room pic & have no software for capturing a screen. I have searched, in vain, to find some reference for bomb range. I'm tired of guessing & failing. Thanks.

Chaco
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Bombs always explode in a 7 by 7 square centered around the bomb (unless blocked by walls, where it gets a wee bit complicated)

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Chaco wrote:
Bombs always explode in a 7 by 7 square centered around the bomb (unless blocked by walls, where it gets a wee bit complicated)

Or, in other words, any position within 3 tiles of a bomb is a bad spot to hide, unless there's a wall in the way of the blast.



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yarnexpress
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I give up! I've stood on EVERY square not occupied by a bomb & still NO LUCK. I CANNOT find a safe spot within the red walls although according to the posts there is one. (Ok, dropping the black door will do it but it doesn't seem possible with the # of moves available.)

So I ask again. Some one please tell me how to solve this room.

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It is definitely possible to stand on the squares where the black door is. You need to be pretty efficient and destroy all the tar and mud and tar babies, and then be standing right next to the green door so that when the bombs explode you can move to where the black door was before the inner sets of bombs goes off. You should have a few moves to spare if you are perfectly efficient.

I'll attach a demo just in case you don't want to try any more. And then check out the fastest demos to see the "secret" way of doing it.

Game on,

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yarnexpress
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I feel soo stupid/blind! I completely overlooked the "other" door. Once I "saw" it the room was easy. Definitely a case of "over-thinking" on my part.

Dreamplane, I'm yours!

Thanks for the help!