reyll3
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When i set a swordsman on oremites his ATK stays the same.
this means he could do the same without sword,so he isnt specialised in swords,so he isnt a swordsman?



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reyll3 wrote:
When i set a swordsman on oremites his ATK stays the same.
this means he could do the same without sword,so he isnt specialised in swords,so he isnt a swordsman?

I think this isn't a bug. That's quite... interesting, yes, but not a bug? Why? Because monster's ATK doesn't depend on weapon(at least custom monsters'). So, even if you put swordsman on oremites, the attack will stay the same.

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... True, but should'nt it be? i mean...it does even more damage then slayers! do they also wear iron knuckles or something?

cause ive been making a hold that actually includes a barrel to be smashed,so it leaks oremites,so it eats the swordsman's sword away and you can beat him cause he has much less atk.

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Okay, but how much attack would a swordsman without a sword have? Any number you pick will be arbitrary.

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Mechadragon wrote:
Okay, but how much attack would a swordsman without a sword have? Any number you pick will be arbitrary.

380, because a Really Big Sword adds 220 attack to your base attack, and it is mentioned that swordsmen carry Really Big Swords.

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reyll3
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I thought the same thing.

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Mechadragon
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And what about the other sworded enemies? What are they carrying?

(On a side-note, if he really is carrying a really big sword why can't you pick it up from his corpse? Maybe it has a fingerprint scanner built in, or it self-destructs apon unwielding.)

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(not to be confused with Warhammer 20,000, a tabletop miniature wargame set twenty thousand years in the future after the original Warhammer game)

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Mechadragon wrote:
(On a side-note, if he really is carrying a really big sword why can't you pick it up from his corpse? Maybe it has a fingerprint scanner built in, or it self-destructs apon unwielding.)

Same reason the player in DROD can't pick up a guard's short sword after frying him on a hot tile. (Not that we've decided what a good handwave that reason is yet...)

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Chaco wrote:

Mechadragon wrote:
(On a side-note, if he really is carrying a really big sword why can't you pick it up from his corpse? Maybe it has a fingerprint scanner built in, or it self-destructs apon unwielding.)

Same reason the player in DROD can't pick up a guard's short sword after frying him on a hot tile. (Not that we've decided what a good handwave that reason is yet...)

But in DROD you already have a Really Big Sword, anything else would be a downgrade.

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Not if the player role isn't Beethro, or the player is disarmed

(My point is that the sword only exists as a part of the enemy, and not really *as a weapon*. Soulless attack the player without swinging around their swords into the player, and furthermore also attack the player whenever the player steps on their sword.)

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reyll3
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Well,the slayer turns his "sword" to you and loses wisp on oremites without losing ATK.

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I thought about changing monster ATK power based on whether it is currently wielding a sword or not. The current behavior is the indended behavior, but we could think about changing it in the future. In any event, there's a current workaround by making a scripted monster type whose ATK power could go down when on oremites.