roach strangler
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this room is so hard for me i can't beat it

Chaco
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Any particular part you're getting stuck on, or can you just not understand the puzzle as a whole?

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stigant
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Well, the key here is that you're going to have to make one trip in and out to the orb in the trapdoors for each orb on the side line. For rooms like this, I usually take a screen shot and then paste into my favorite paint program (usually WinPaint). I use the line tool to plan out my trips.

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roach strangler
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I try diffrent paths but i always get stuck

Chaco
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I haven't actually played this room yet, as level 15 is very annoying for me, but when at all possible zig-zag in open areas so you can cross over yourself later.

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roach strangler
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well i guess ill try thanks for every thing

stigant
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zig-zag in open areas so you can cross over yourself later.

that's generally good advice, but not so much in this room. I just solved it without crossing over my path like that at all.

Here's my general strategy for this room: Start on the left side and hug the left wall as much as possible. Remember, you're going to have to go in and out a total of 11 times before you drop the trap last trap door. That means that all but one of the squares next to the entrances are used for different paths. Secondly, you have to hit the NW orb 6 times. There are 8 trapdoors around it. You need to make sure you only use 1 of those squares (one time you'll have to use 2) whenever possible.

I'm attaching a picture of my first path. I created this in Paint. You should be able to copy it and then finish off the other paths for yourself.

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stigant
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Here's the first two paths (as requested).

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Raid-XXX
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OK, now I really feel stupid. I've finally beaten this room (and with lots of help, every other on this accursed level) but when I exit to 1N, 2W I'm stuck again. Have pity on this poor fool.

jbluestein
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Raid-XXX wrote:
OK, now I really feel stupid. I've finally beaten this room (and with lots of help, every other on this accursed level) but when I exit to 1N, 2W I'm stuck again. Have pity on this poor fool.

There are two passageways between 1N,2W and 1N, 3W. If you've already cleared 1N,2W, then you can reenter this room through the northern entrance (green door will be dropped).

If you haven't cleared 1N, 2W yet...then you will need to go back and do so. As far as I can recall, there is no exit from 1N, 3W unless you first clear 1N, 2W.

Josh

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michthro
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I don't think it's possible to get to 1N3W without clearing 1N2W.

Raid-XXX, I think you're just missing the glaringly obvious (as I did when I looked at the room again to help you). Are you thinking you have to get past the four yellow doors again? Well, you don't. Look carefully.

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michthro wrote:
I don't think it's possible to get to 1N3W without clearing 1N2W.

Raid-XXX, I think you're just missing the glaringly obvious (as I did when I looked at the room again to help you). Are you thinking you have to get past the four yellow doors again? Well, you don't. Look carefully.

Sure it's possible. There are two monsters in 1N2W, and while the Wraithwing is easy to get, the roach requires some trickiness. It's quite possible to drop all the trapdoors while leaving the roach stranded.

At which point, you're pretty much hosed.



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michthro
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What about the green doors?

jbluestein
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michthro wrote:
What about the green doors?

There's only one green door in the image I'm looking at, and it doesn't prevent you from exiting to the west after killing the WW.

And, you know, that may be it. The image linked to by this thread is the original KDD (OK, not original perhaps, but earlier in any case), not KDD 2.0. I just pulled up the KDD 2.0 image and, yes, there's an extra green door.

So, I guess we both get to be right. If Raid-XXX is playing KDD 2.0, he should be fine. If he's playing an earlier KDD, then he's got a problem.

Josh





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michthro
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Ahh.. Mystery cleared up. Thanks.

Raid-XXX
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DOH!!! Now, would someone be so kind as to fetch my white cane?

Urgugg
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Where IS the picture? There is no picture here and no link to it either.

stigant wrote:

zig-zag in open areas so you can cross over yourself later.

I'm attaching a picture of my first path. I created this in Paint. You should be able to copy it and then finish off the other paths for yourself.

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Urgugg wrote:
Where IS the picture? There is no picture here and no link to it either.

It looks like stigant originally added it to his next post and then removed it later.

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File: Lvl15-1N3W.jpg (112.8 KB)
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I have a possible solution right here.
Due to the complexity of the room, I felt I ought to plan my route first and here's my route-map. (Attached)
You have to pass through the trapdoor area six times, and each route is colour-coded to make it easier to follow!

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kreetchur
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I know that this is an old topic, but I can't seem to manage with what is here. I've had DROD for about a week and burned through the first fourteen levels. I beat the entire level 15, found the secret room, but I can't manage this one. I looked on the forum and downloaded the demo's, but I can't get them to play. This is the first time I really asked for help, and I desperately need it.

Please? Help? Anything?

Blondbeard
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Have you looked at DCLeadbot's jpg-file, in the post directly above yours?