Cyr
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Hello,

another room that makes me sick. It seems to be clear that I have to kill all tar mothers without one spawn, so that the mimic potion still is reachable at the end. But I don't know how to do this with that goblin around me, which is needed for the snake. I cannot clear out the tar mass without being killed by the goblin, and I see no way to trap it or get it out of the visible range.

Do you have any hints for that?

stigant
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I'm stuck on this room as well, but I think I just realized something...



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agaricus5
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stigant wrote:
I'm stuck on this room as well, but I think I just realized something...

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Do you really need to keep the goblin around? I thought you did, but on second thought...

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stigant
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Hmmm, well, I was thinking that


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Doom
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stigant wrote:
Hmmm, well, I was thinking that

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×you could lure the roach onto the east arrow, use the mimic to kill the snake, then maneouver the mimic onto the other arrow to kill the roach.

If I remember correctly there's an east arrow on the roach.

Cyr
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Thank you for your help, agaricus, your hint was quite useful. It was a bit of running at the beginning, but it worked.

talund
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I am at a loss for how to keep the goblin from following me. I can clear out only the first tar mother to prevent the first spawn but then am always killed by the goblin or by tar babies when trying to maneuver away from the goblin.

Hammerite
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It is hard to explain... if you are careful then you can clear a couple of tar mothers. Then what happened to me was that I accidentally left the Goblin behind by ripping through the tar and spawning tar babies that held it up, so that it lost sight of me! It was quite easy after that!

key-smiter
Level: Master Delver
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I've been stuck here forever. Well, only about two months, but it seems like forever.

Thanks -

Chaco
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This is a pretty tough room. I started by only cutting the tar to the side, then eventually making a run for it and using the tar gap to my advantage - there are a few locations where you can stand where you won't alert any tar mothers. Good luck, it's a doozy (like all rooms on this level, really)

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key-smiter
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Chaco wrote:
This is a pretty tough room.

I agree. I've already tried several variants of the "make a run for it" philosophy and I'm no further than before. I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask for something more utilitarian, like where the goblin is actually stashed when one "makes a run for it".

My apologies for being too dense for this game.

Chaco
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Unfortunately, I don't have my demo with me at the moment due to version difficulty, but the gap to the west has a convenient two-square barrier to dodge around. The only problem is that you'll need to turn your sword twice, so try and get that much space between the two of you.

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schep
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Room image:

Hints:

key-smiter
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File: BD Level 6 The Rooms Of Manipulation 1N4E busted 1.demo (1.8 KB)
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License: Public Domain

I've spent plenty of time on this room, and your suggestions are indeed among what I've tried to do. Unfortunately I can only get partway through the sequence, when a spawn occurs, or I die.

This may seem like overkill, but I've got three demos of what happens (they're just a little different depending on where I try to go, but the end result is the same.) I've attached the one I think most likely to succeed, am I close?

Thanks -

Briareos
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File: BD Level 6 The Rooms Of Manipulation 1N4E Start.demo (1.8 KB)
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key-smiter wrote:
I've attached the one I think most likely to succeed, am I close?

Well, you're digging exactly where you're bound to end up in a dead end.

Here's a demo of how I started the room.

np: Pop Levi - Blue Honey (Zentertainment 2006)

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key-smiter
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Thanks.

A person wiser than I would have given up on this hold long ago.

Briareos
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key-smiter wrote:
A person wiser than I would have given up on this hold long ago.

Well, I haven't finished it either, and I haven't been very motivated to play it lately... there's just so many other holds out there. (And Trackmania United, but that's something totally different... )

np: Pop Levi - Blue Honey (Zentertainment 2006)

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