key-smiter
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I am hung up on one "simple" part.So . . . clearly it's not impossible. What am I missing?

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Briareos
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key-smiter wrote:
What am I missing?

np: Sly & Robbie ft. T.O.K. - Star (Rhythm Doubles)

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Syntax
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Just a quick addition for optimisers... this room feels so wrong in so many places because of the amount of moves required per roach. But yeah, it's necessary

key-smiter
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Thanks . . . . Yeah, there is a certain amount of out-of-order stuff in this room.

Johno758
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Click here to view the secret text

×You can prevent one of the two roaches from getting to you when you open the door.

Click here to view the secret text

×By trapping it on the arrow that's near it, that is.

Well call me whatever names you want and tell me I'm stupid, but I don't see how you can make a roach move backwards.

Chaco
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If that's the part you needed help with, that is.

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Briareos
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Chaco wrote:

Click here to view the secret text

×You have to go near the east cage entrance so the roach at top follows you and goes into the force arrow.

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I'm sorry but it still isn't making any sense. Attached is aanother screenshot showing the colours of the doors when I stike the orb. Obviously the roaches will go to the orange point (toggle) but then move away to their original positions as soon as I move from the save point. The bit about is what has me confused now. As far as I can see there are no breakable walls etc to allow me to get East of the top roach

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Johno758 wrote:
As far as I can see there are no breakable walls etc to allow me to get East of the top roach

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First of all I apologise for being SO dense and stupid!!

I would LOVE to go where you said but it's getting past the 2 roaches at 1 in the original post that has got me beat. There is obviously something that I'm missing or not doing first. I've searched everywhere that is accessible for other ways up but I can't find anything, also regardless of which direction I have my sword all that happens is I die at the intersection with the roaches

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Johno758 wrote:
I would LOVE to go where you said but it's getting past the 2 roaches at 1 in the original post that has got me beat. There is obviously something that I'm missing or not doing first.

np: Underworld - The Misterons Mix (RiverRun Project)

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Johno758
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Very, very sorry for being so stupid. I was so concerned about killing the roaches that I wasn't looking properly. Even the original answer to the original question was enough if I hadn't been so dim. I feel like a proper n00b doing KDD for the first time

Syntax
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Don't worry. We've all been there and no-one's judging you