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Author Name:Matthew
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Hold Name:Snakes to death remastered
Theme:they don't jump like the original game
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Version:DROD: The City Beneath (3.2)
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in this game it has no turns and jumps but there are two new modes rattlesnake and adder but watch to see if they can be all dead like in the original game.
05-17-2011 at 11:19 PM
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Well, what should I say about this hold?

This is a hold that tried to show an example of how the original Snakes! ...to the Death contest worked, at least supposedly. In a non-interactive way.

It's a hold worth playing if you're a completionist, or you'd like some easy scores for CaravelNet. Otherwise, not worth playing.

PS. One HA comment was: " There is one thing I noticed, which is that if the player enters and clears some room, say, the serpent room, then re-enters it, they become stuck due to an infinite cutscene." Be warned.

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05-17-2011 at 11:24 PM
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Tim wrote:
It's a hold worth playing if you're a completionist
"Playing" is a strong word. "Walking through" is closer, and even that suggests that there's actually something to do, which there isn't. I'm not even clear on what it is that this is illustrating.
05-17-2011 at 11:32 PM
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I wouldn't call it "walking through" since you don't do that much walking. I'd go with "watching".

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05-18-2011 at 12:59 AM
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Hmmm.

I'm not sure this should even count as a published hold but here it is.

What I will say (without having any in-depth knowledge of hold scripting) is that it must have been pretty time-consuming to set up the cut scenes (unless you can just put a monster down and have them follow the usual movement rules).

Not sure what else to add really :?

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Difficulty: 1 (I would probably have put 0 but 1 appears to be the lowest value I can choose)
Fun: 1

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05-18-2011 at 10:31 AM
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It's a very interesting first attempt and I'm glad you're trying your hand at making holds. I'm sure you learned a lot.

That said, I'm not sure what the point of this hold is. There are no puzzles, you just go into a room, watch everything die, then leave. Most people think it's more fun if there is something to figure out.

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05-18-2011 at 02:59 PM
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martz wrote:
(unless you can just put a monster down and have them follow the usual movement rules)
That'd be it. In fact, you can't even script snakes, so if you want snakes, all you can do is let them follow their usual movement rules.
05-18-2011 at 06:19 PM
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Well, I suppose you could use NPCs with custom all-transparent graphics to guide the snakes. Pop them in and out as needed, even. Man, where was I for the dirty tricks contest?

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05-18-2011 at 06:32 PM
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plz this is not a bad hold! now its a bad hold

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07-20-2011 at 05:44 PM
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It's just not very fun when you don't actually /do/ anything.

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07-20-2011 at 07:06 PM
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matthewpd wrote:
plz this is not a bad hold! :-O no its not a bad hold!
Why not?

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07-20-2011 at 07:52 PM
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plz don't mod me down :~(.
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07-20-2011 at 08:15 PM
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well, im thinking this is now a bad hold

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07-21-2011 at 01:57 PM
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matthewpd wrote:
well, im thinking this is now a bad hold
It is, but if you learn from your mistakes, we will forgive you for it.

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07-21-2011 at 02:10 PM
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Fun hold to watch. No puzzles, but but I do remember the contest on which this was based.

The infinite cutscene problems could have been fixed with just a wee bit of scripting, so it's unfortunate that it made it into the final hold.

3 fun, 0.5 brain

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09-13-2012 at 01:45 AM
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