techant wrote:

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×As to the END commands, I did use them, and I even asked on the forum, "is there was a way to stop the script from repeating, if you went in to a secret room and then came back using restore?" The answer I got was NO! The script will not repeat if you go out then come in again but it will repeat if you use restore. I did try and point in my scrolls but I guess I didn't do it well enough.

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×As to the END commands, I did use them, and I even asked on the forum, "is there was a way to stop the script from repeating, if you went in to a secret room and then came back using restore?" The answer I got was NO! The script will not repeat if you go out then come in again but it will repeat if you use restore. I did try and point in my scrolls but I guess I didn't do it well enough.

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×That's not what I mean. For example, the scripting in 2S2E repeats even after clearing the room.

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There are two scripts in this room depending on if you come in from the North or the West/South.

This is the North (this one is intended to bug you once):
Wait for entity Beethro 1,1,1,2
Speech "Jumpen Lizards!",Normal,Beethro,0,.
Speech "Finding this Princess is taking too long..",Normal,Beethro,0,.
Speech "Lunch is almost over!!",Aggressive,Beethro,0,.
End on room exit

This is the West/South (this one is intended to bug you until you beat the room):
Wait for event Trapdoor removed
Speech "Goblin construction strikes again.",Striking,Beethro,0,.
End

I miss the Goblin area as an entrance so if you are there you should have nothing.

Both have a version of 'End', which one of these is the problem? I want to get it right.


P.S. I LOVE THE NEW COPY SCRIPT FEATURE

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×No, I didn't mean that room. That's 1S2E, and I said 2S2E.
I went in the editor and found the following rooms with scripts that repeat and shouldn't:
1S - the goblin observer
2E - the two goblin messengers
2S2E - all scripts. I'm not sure why these repeat, so I suggest you ask with a topic in Architecture.

techant wrote:
what did you think of the scripts I did to tell the story?

Jatopian wrote:

techant wrote:
what did you think of the scripts I did to tell the story?

I'm hiding this more to avoid influencing others' votes than to avoid spoilers.

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×Overall I thought the story was pretty good. I think that occasionally the cutscenes were a little slow - pauses between speech were sometimes a little long, or character movement slow, or the cutscene continued some turns after the action finished. Personally I found that last one to be most problematic.
I heard some players in chat express greater or different dissatisfaction than I, so you might benefit from a second opinion as well.

I think I've focused a fair amount on the negative with this contest's judging, so let me say that I think your work has potential and you should keep at it.

techant wrote:
I don't mean to keep this going but they played fine in my computer. Does the computer speed affect cutscenes?

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The Exterminator Chronicles: Nice Terminator send up, with Halph's bedtime story framing device. Good use of cutscenes, nicely designed, almost too much going on in some scenes, but very cinematic. Optional rooms, focus on rescuing Princess. Why were the rooms secret and not just non-required? Fun. The storyline was a key feature for me. 9

Trapdoor maze: Nothing to it. 3

BbJ

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Thank you for your nice word.

As to the secret rooms, I tried it as non-required but it made it too hard to go back and do them. You would have to walk around the whole hold and I thought it was long enough as it was. I did think of having you return to a copied level but then if you had done a room or two it wouldn't count and you would have to do it again.

The next option was secret room's so it would be easier to go down and finish. The problem with that was the script would run all over again.

Later I did have some other ideas but the submission period was closed. And then they were not that good after all. So secret rooms it was.

I have to say, Mr Slice "Wow, looks like most of the holds in the entire Ravioli League really wasted Tahnan's time."

Jatopian wrote:
I did prefer the other league, I must admit.

Mr. Slice - may I suggest that you try to learn from others' comments. Perhaps next time focus on making one really good entry instead of two - it doesn't improve your chances except in the world of math, and there's a good reason calamarain's architecture guide emphasizes pruning so much.
When I started out I too was attracted to the editor, but I did a lot of playing and realized that I wasn't ready. You may wish to do what I did: Keep your architecture to yourself for a while, occasionally put out a few puzzles and ask people's opinions, to track your progress. And in the meantime, play others' work. It'll stimulate your skills and imagination, help you know what a player like yourself enjoys, and of course be fun.

techant wrote:

I have to say, Mr Slice "Wow, looks like most of the holds in the entire Ravioli League really wasted Tahnan's time."

It was a contest about easy to medium puzzles and I think Tahnan likes them a little harder, like 9 to 10 brains levels of difficulty.

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Confusing Hold

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×Unfortunately, on the second level, I started going, "This is dull." I found it just a little too hard to parse; I couldn't figure out where I needed to go. 6

Tahnan wrote:

techant wrote:

I have to say, Mr Slice "Wow, looks like most of the holds in the entire Ravioli League really wasted Tahnan's time."

It was a contest about easy to medium puzzles and I think Tahnan likes them a little harder, like 9 to 10 brains levels of difficulty.

True only to a point. I do like hard puzzles, but note that nothing in my own entry was that hard. (Er, was intended to be that hard. Sorry you found one of the rooms to be so!)

But more to the point: not counting my own hold (for which I voted a 10), and with one exception that I've already granted, all of my votes are within a standard deviation of the average. Always lower than the average, true, but not too far off from it, statistically speaking; indeed, discounting again that exception, my votes are at most 2, and typically closer to 1.5 or 1, points off from the average. Er, just to be clear that my voting isn't egregiously mean.

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Incidentally. Can someone explain how it is that the first two holds on the list--3 Course and Arcade--have, as of this posting, 21 votes each, and the other holds have 20 votes each? Is that somehow possible? Or has a vote gotten lost for most of the holds (or counted twice for those two)?

techant wrote:
How did you see a difference in the number of voters. Are you able to get behind the scenes or just read the tea leaves of bar graphs?

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 <-- rating
0 0 2 3 5 3 3 3 0 3  <-- 3 Course Hold; total = 22
1 0 1 2 3 7 2 1 1 4 <-- Arcade Al Dente; total = 22
0 1 7 1 5 2 2 1 0 2 <-- Bagel Strike; total = 21
0 0 0 1 0 1 7 3 4 5 <-- Blorn Bridge; total = 21

Mattcrampy wrote:
There does seem to be something going on, but I broke out the calculator and did some maths. Arcade Al Dente's currently in fifth place, with a combined score of 140. Even if we assume that the extra vote it got was a 1, that's still not enough to change the ranking - 139/21 is 6.62, still less than The Exterminator Chronicles' 6.9.

It looks like someone just forgot to finish voting.

If you are the author of the hold, please vote 10 for it. Please refrain from voting 1 for the other holds, because we'll catch you.