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Entrance: Um... a little complicated? I'm still working through this one.

×Entrance - You're right, this room is too tedious. I nearly quit playing your hold partway through this very long room. I did finally conquer it. The main idea of the puzzle is nice: arrange the clones such that each little group of monsters can be defeated. There's just way way way too much of it. 15 carefully selected little boxes would be plenty. And unless they will be involved in a story, I'd suggest removing the guards on the west side of the room entirely. I didn't use the clone potion inside the green door. I assume the blue door is just decoration. And, will you be adding a room to the east? The yellow door on the east side will make players search for a way through.

1W - Two puzzles in this room. There's a long old school golem horde puzzle on the outside and a quick swordless adder puzzle on the inside. The golem part was tedious. I didn't find it nearly as tedious as the Entrance puzzle, but it wasn't nearly as interesting either. No problem with the adder part.

1N1W - I'm glad I kept playing because this is a very clever room! I really like how I had to use the mirrors from the lower chambers to solve the upper chambers. This is the best room in the hold so far.

1S1W - Pretty hold art! You either need to block the southern exit or put a room there.

1S - This is a nice room too. A few stuck aumtlich turned the gel mother timer off for me.

2W - And this one's a good room as well. I liked the golem packing puzzle aspect of this room much better than 1W. It involved more thinking and a lot less mindless stacking of golem corpses.

×My holds: Beethro's Brain, Entropy, Further Up and Further In, Washed Ashore, Hinterlands, Hypercube, jfflpnk, Lavender Levels.
Collaborations: Way Forward, Advanced Concepts 2

×Entrance - Unless you've got a compelling story-related reason to start the player here, I wouldn't recommend showing your most discouraging room first.

1W - The fegundos work wonders on the golems, but they also introduce an unintended solution. You can clean out the central area with fegundos too.

2S1W - Neat! This is a clever way to give access to the new secret room.

3W - More tricky golem packing.

1S3W - Very very easy.

1N3W - A fiddly room that's highly dependent on goblin movement order.

In the second level, 1W looks like an interesting set of trapdoor mazes. Right now, the southwest square is impossible. The player can only step off (7,24) onto (6,25). The player can only step off (6,25) onto (7,24). Stuck.

×Thank you for all the checkpoints! Now make sure the player will actually be able to step on some. In 3W, I can't get to any of them.

1W - This room still has an unintended solution. I can still solve the central adder puzzle with a fegundo. Remember, when a fegundo is on an orthosquare and you point him diagonally, he remains stationary without exploding.

1S3W - This room is now a little more challenging.

×Overall, this level requires a lot of patience to complete.

1W - This room is now possible. Some of the squares a quite tricky! Particularly the one in the NE corner.

You may wish to put the conquer token under the red door, so people will get different scores for this room.

1N1E - This is a very tight little tar-cutting efficiency puzzle. Especially the first part, where I had to try many times. The second half was pretty easy, by comparison, and I got it on my first try.

2N - You'll find that orb puzzles are a touchy subject among players. Some people will love this room, as each little sub-puzzle can be worked out on paper in a few minutes, and each has a different trick to it. Other people categorically hate orb puzzles. Not sure what an "intended solution" vs an "unintended solution" might look like, but I hit the conquer token on turn 156.

1E - I'm sure it's fun covering a room in complete darkness, but please don't. I'm sorry, but that's just annoying. Here's what I did when I got to 1E. I hit escape, went to Settings, unchecked the alpha blending box, came back and walked through this room with no lighting effects whatsoever.

1S1E - This room has no monsters and no conquer token, so it's not necessary to solve the puzzle to conquer the room. I suggest putting a conquer token under the black door. I solved the token puzzle anyway and enjoyed it - it's one of the best puzzles on the level. Needs a checkpoint though.

2E - I haven't solved this room yet, because it's too much strain on my eyes. Please change the floor style under the force arrows (maybe to grass). It's next to impossible to see white Fortress style force arrows on white floor tiles. If you're going to make a force arrow maze, it needs to be very easy to see the force arrows. Also, please don't use darkness to decorate the area where Beethro is walking.

× to hit the briar slowing orb twice slowing it even more than just killing three roots

×Entrance - You've finally forced me to put Beethro in the central area instead of a fegundo.
1N - Still a nice room.
1S - I though the old version of this room was prettier, but no big deal.
2S - Still good.
1E - This secret room is still very tedious to solve. But at least it's secret. You may want to reword the scroll by the escape stairs. Someone who conquers the room shouldn't be warned about having to solve the trapdoor puzzle again. Maybe it should just say "Back to the Entrance".
1S1E - The change you made shortened the "timer" in the room, but made the solution a lot more obvious.
1W - Still good.
2W - I still recommend putting a checkpoint in a more accessible area on the east side of the room.
1N2W - I like the change you've made here, giving the player a choice of easy and hard ways of completing the room.
2N2W - This room needs to be marked "secret" and not "required." If this room is required, there is a backtracking problem due to the green sister door in 1N2W. The challenge in this room is certainly worthy of secret status. It took me quite a while to see what needed to be done, and I enjoyed figuring it out. The only other suggestion I have is removing a few of the brains to make the "cleanup" less tedious. Overall, very nice job.
1S2W - Okay, same as before.

×Entrance - Rather dark. I'd suggest lightening this room, or adding wall lights to illuminate Beethro's path. Same for 1W, 1N, 1S1E, and 1S.
1W - Still a nice trapdoor challenge. Hard to see the difference between pits and bridges in here.
2N - As before. And yes, I did use your intended solution.
1N1E - My old demo broke, but this feels like the same puzzle I solved and liked before.
1E - Thank you for the light in here.
1S1E - I still like this tarstuff switching puzzle, and with the conquer token, now it really is a puzzle.
2E - Thank you, thank you for changing the floor. The hot tiles make a really nice contrast with the force arrows. I played with this room for a few hours, but was still unable to solve it. My problem is that fuse on a "dead end" path burns a couple squares too far and cuts off (13,6), where I need unburned fuse later to complete the room. Have you actually solved this room? Here's my partial demo, please tell me how to fix this.

× I put the mosaic tiles in for a reason

×2E - This puzzle became easy once I thought to make that first problematic serpent turn north instead of west.
1N - This is a challenging golem packing problem, where I needed to make full use of the orthosquares and golem movement rules.
2N - Medium difficulty. There was a little more than enough room for all the golem corpses.
1N1E - Got this one with one turn to spare.
1N2E - Got the 8th southern gel mother with no turns to spare.
1N3E - The restriction that the eastern golems stay on their pressure plates made this one tougher than it looked.
2N1E - This level needs a blue door and stairs... would this be a good spot?
1N1W - I got Beethro far enough west with no turns to spare. Had to use the trick that eyes don't wake up on turn 0.
2W - The SW part of this room was a particularly tough trapdoor puzzle.
1S - Tricky, took me a while to see what needed to be done. Seems that the briar allows me to almost kill the adder on the hot tile, but deliver the death blow with Beethro's sword.

I'm still working on 1E. Having a really hard time at the beginning, getting past the skipper nest at (6,21).

×use your sword to stop one of the nests from spawning

×If the serpent doesn't follow you across the arrow...

If the briar is too fast...

×Entrance description: "considered" is misspelled.
1N - This room is impossible, because there is no pressure plate that opens the door at (17-18,22).
1S2W - Now the intended solution isn't quite as obvious as in the previous version.
1S - There are still warp stairs here. Don't forget to remove them in the final version of the hold.

×Entrance description: "absolutely" is misspelled.
1E - The player can no longer reach this room from the entrance because of a tile mismatch. So 1S1E and 2E are now inaccessible.
1N1E - The decorative green door makes it impossible to reach the conquer token.
1S1W - I suggest removing this blank inaccessible room.