RoboBob3000
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Yup. 48 hours as of the results post.

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RoboBob3000
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I've got about 7 more hours until votes are due and I'm still waiting on 2 of them.

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RoboBob3000
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Tribal Council #5

For this Tribal Council, 12 votes will be read. Two of those votes come as a consequence from Challenge #4. Those votes are for:


The Ultimate Sacrifice votes didn't affect the outcome of the previous vote. Will they affect this one? We have ten more votes to read.

Third vote...


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RoboBob3000
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File: Survival.hold (3.2 KB)
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License: Public Domain

Challenge #6: Survival

Attached to this post is a one-room DROD:TCB hold. Beethro is trapped in box, and roaches will overtake him rather quickly. He has no chance of survival.

Clearing the room is out of the question. I just want to see who can beat back death the longest.

I want you to email (***address removed***) me a demo of this room. The player with the longest demo will win immunity!

Some notes:

1. Your demo should include the move of your death.
2. You only get one submission for this challenge. As soon as you email me a valid demo, you're done. If there is some problem with the demo, I'll let you resubmit.
3. If there is a tie, the player that submitted their demo first will win.
4. Since the tiebreaker procedure gives an advantage to certain time zones, I will treat all demos received in the first 24 hours as if they all had the same time stamp. If there is still a tie as a result of this, I will hold a runoff challenge with the remaining players. Hopefully we don't go there.
5. If it somehow turns out that it is possible to survive in this room indefinitely, send me a demo that adequately demonstrates this. If I receive such a demo, I will throw my hands in the air, hang my head, and redesign the room.
6. You have 4 days from the time of this post to send me your demos. The challenge will end immediately if I receive demos from everybody.

Good luck!

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RoboBob3000
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First clarification: By longest, I mean the demo with the highest move count. Duration doesn't count.

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noma
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Just so everyone knows, I believe there is a way to survive indefinitely in this room. I've emailed the pattern (and a 2000+ move demo) to RoboBob to see if he agrees.

RoboBob3000
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Okay, this challenge is on hold. Thanks, noma.

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Dischorran
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And so it came to pass that the wisdom of the crowd in voting "noma" for category 2 was confirmed.

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noma
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Sometimes I see it, but often I don't. It's not like I'm BOASTING about it or anything.

RoboBob3000
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Okay, I've updated the hold file. A minor change, but it should make it work. It appears in the challenge post above. The 4-day clock resets as of this post.

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Kwakstur
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Aww, I wanted to see the old level so I could see if I could figure out the trick...

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TripleM
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Was the trick 'obvious' out of interest? My best was 81 up to that point

RoboBob3000
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If you want to recreate the old one, the only difference between the two was the addition of two wall tiles in the center.

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noma
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TripleM wrote:
Was the trick 'obvious' out of interest? My best was 81 up to that point

I don't know that it was obvious, but it was very hypnotic. Once I worked out the trick, it was the same around and around the square. If you don't figure it out, I'll share it after the challenge. I'm using the start of it for the current version. Not that it's helping much.

Dischorran
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So does this mean that removing the roach queens from the original version (and adding something to deal with the aumtlich at the end) would make this a solvable room? Not that I'd ever suggest that it find its way into a particularly brutal hold or anything like that...

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zex20913
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Also a way to get outside of the box--yes. It would make a solvable room.

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noma
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File: Naomis Version of RoboBob3000s Survival.hold (1.9 KB)
Downloaded 43 times.
License: Public Domain

So for "fun", I edited the room a bit (my first time editing, very scary): I removed the queens, left the roaches 4 deep around the room, added an orb and gate at 18,21/19,21 respectively and put a single tile platform at the bottom of the pit. Not bad. I'd say this has potential for inclusion in a RoboBob3000 hold. Maybe even leaving the roaches 3 deep might be better. Players would still have to work out the trick.

EDIT: And here is a modified, solvable, not too long version. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post a revised hold that was built by another person, so let me know if I should take this down.

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RoboBob3000
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noma wrote:
So for "fun", I edited the room a bit (my first time editing, very scary): I removed the queens, left the roaches 4 deep around the room, added an orb and gate at 18,21/19,21 respectively and put a single tile platform at the bottom of the pit. Not bad. I'd say this has potential for inclusion in a RoboBob3000 hold. Maybe even leaving the roaches 3 deep might be better. Players would still have to work out the trick.

EDIT: And here is a modified, solvable, not too long version. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post a revised hold that was built by another person, so let me know if I should take this down.

Don't worry, I'll give you my permission.

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TripleM
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Boy, it's hard to know whether my submission is going to be decent or whether I'm miles off noma.. I mean, the eventual winner. The results are going to be very interesting.

Dex Stewart
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Do I even need to do this one? Really, seems kinda hopeless to me. My best try until now is 64.

kie
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I won't be sending an entry for this challenge. I have just got back from 2 weeks in South Africa and am heading off for the weekend for our last camping/boating weekend of the season.
I am sure I wouldn't even come close to noma!!!

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larrymurk
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I think noma deserves immunity for breaking the original room. Whoever scores best on this version would also get immunity.

noma
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VIPCOOL wrote:....I can't get more than 84, so I can't imagine what noma or some other experienced player would get.

Hey, I've only got a couple more months on you. And really, after playing for a couple of months, I was away from the game for a while. I'd say I've only got about a year and a half of on-again, off-again playing experience.

Anyway, though I won't say what I scored, I will say that I submitted my score only a few hours after the 2nd hold was posted and didn't spend a lot of time on it. Lots of stuff going on right now. So it could be anyone's game... provided you can beat my score of 212, that is. Kidding.

...or, am I?

TripleM
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I also submitted earliesh into the 24 hours. So those of you who haven't submitted, hurry up, the suspense is killing me

RoboBob3000
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Last day for submissions. Get them in soon if you haven't yet!

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noma
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Now that the challenge is over, I will say that I'm pretty sure I did not get the highest number of moves. Actually, if VIPCOOL wasn't bluffing, then I know I didn't. It's be nice if RoboBob3000 would post the winning demo though.

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RoboBob3000
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Don't have time right now to post full results, so here's a quickie. Will post full results later:


You all have 48 hours to vote. To the winner, if you wish, you may give immunity to anybody else - just post so in this thread.

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TripleM
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File: Survival Survival The Entrance Death.demo (811 bytes)
Downloaded 46 times.
License: Public Domain

For those who are interested, demo attached.

noma
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Congrats! I knew there was a move I was missing. Nice going.

Dischorran
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So yeah, that's more than double what I got.

Besides kie, did anyone not submit a demo? Just wondering...

EDIT: In other news, 62 is totally not less than half of 87. Not sure what I was thinking. Nicely done nonetheless!

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