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I've been here a while. Not nearly as long as some people, but long enough to have lurked for a year or so before actually deciding to get in on the action and post. Since the time that I've joined, a number of people have joined that don't appear to know the basics of Forum Etiquette. It may be because these people are young, and simply haven't been introduced to the rules of posting in a way that leaves certain things unambiguous. It may be that CaravelNet is simply more civilized than the places that these people have gone to on the internet in the past. I don't know, nor does it matter that much. Regardless, I feel that there needs to be a simple set of guidelines written down somewhere as a reference of good Forum Etiquette.

1. Use correct spelling and grammar. I can't place enough emphasis on this one. It's annoying when you use all caps. It's even more annoying when you have no sentences in your entire post.

2. Think before you post. We here at CaravelNet love new ideas and discussing them, but if you only have the vaguest of ideas about what you're writing about, we certainly won't, which makes it more likely we'll misinterpret what you're saying, which is a Bad Thing.

3. Mod Points. It's been said that they don't mean anything. This is sort of true, and sort of not true. If someone likes your post, you might get modded up. Similarly, if someone dislikes your post, you might get modded down. It's just how it works, and there is no need to whine about getting modded down, or not getting modded up. What it is supposed to do is give you a general trend. If you've been getting a large number of downmods, it's likely something you're doing, and you might want to think about figuring out what that is, and rectifying that. On the other hand, if you're getting upmodded consistently, you're probably making a positive influence on the Forum.

4. Don't make comments on your post. I'm not sure how exactly to explain this, but don't write, "I'm sorry for posting," or "I'm not sure why I'm doing this." If you're going to post, have some conviction, and let the post stand on it's own, for better or for worse. You can evaluate if the post was good or not later, and change your future postings if you messed up.

5. Respect other people. Everyone is here for the same reason. They love DROD and want to have interesting discussions with other people who similarly love DROD. Nobody wants to be harassed while they're here. I'm not saying you have to agree with everyone, but you should at least think carefully about their position before you discredit it outright.

6. Don't whine. While it may be that you don't like what someone said or did, complaining certainly won't make them want to retract it. In fact, when you whine, it tends to solidify what people think about you, instead of changing it. The only way to make people think differently about you is to actually be different.

I believe that about sums up basic Forum Etiquette. Suggestions would be awesome.

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12-14-2007 at 04:19 PM
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Here we go... yet *another* lurker posting about forum etiquette... ;)

Well put. I like the style and it does cover all recent issues :)
12-14-2007 at 05:11 PM
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I'm all for forum etiquette, and don't really disagree with A's post. But to be honest, I feel the best way to promote these standards is to post frequently in the desired style. I also feel that the content of a post is usually more important than the style, i.e. someone who posts a worthwhile story, observation, joke, or helpful comment, but with some bad grammar and spelling errors, is a proper contributor and welcome to use the English language poorly. Especially, I'm appreciative of people who manage to give us good posts when English is not their first language.

That said, Aztcg7 is not really a lurker. He's made several tens of useful posts and practices what he preaches, which is great.

It is more straightforward and useful to contribute the kind of content you want to see on the forum, than to cajole everyone else to do it. Like a guy posted a while back a topic on The Philosophy of DROD that made a nice little bastion of semi-well-considered intellectualism. Posts like that wake up the thinkers in the crowd and get them to participate. On the other hand, many people here wouldn't care for that topic, because they have different preferences--i.e. quick succession of iterative one-liner jokes, pop culture references, talking about just-released games. Each to his own. But you have the power to draw people into the conversation in which you are interested. You can play the host of discussion or add fuel to someone else's. You can stick to the meat of the topic instead of fostering meta-talk about it and feeding trolls.

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12-14-2007 at 09:24 PM
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These guidelines are great! I'm going to start following these so I don't look like an idiot! If I ever did look like an idiot.
Great stuff! :thumbsup

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It would help if the FAQ link at the top of every forum page linked to the actual FAQ.
ErikH2000 wrote:
You can stick to the meat of the topic instead of fostering meta-talk about it and feeding trolls.
Or, for that matter, being trolls.

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Curses! On the way home, I was mentally composing a post much like this. You beat me to it.

To "think before you post", I'd specifically add: Consider whether your post is necessary at all. Any number of times I've started to post a reply and then said, "Hmmm. That's not really going to add anything to the discussion" (or, worse, "Hmmm. This is really just argumentative, and not productive"), and cancelled the post. "Necessary" may be strong; nothing wrong with posting something humorous, and the occasional lolpotato is always welcome...

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...but posting to say "QFT" or "I don't know the answer either" or the like is the kind of thing that irritates people.

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...and the occasional lolpotato is always welcome...

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Should I regret starting the whole potato meme?

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No, I started it. We all know that. You were like, I dunno, wood, right? And I was the spark and we all know that means that I started it and not you.

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Tahnan wrote:
...but posting to say "QFT" or "I don't know the answer either" or the like is the kind of thing that irritates people.
I dunno, but QFT.

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I think that's the only potato I've seen on here that didn't have a thought bubble and no caption. Which is why I was calling the meme "tater thoughts".

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Jatopian wrote:
I think that's the only potato I've seen on here that didn't have a thought bubble and no caption. Which is why I was calling the meme "tater thoughts".
It isn't a meme until 4chan beats it to the ground.

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Don't make me start posting lolcats... or rather lolpotatoes.

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Or both.

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Haha. 4chan has been hacked. I hope it stays dead forever.

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Aw man, I never got to visit.

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Jatopian wrote:
Aw man, I never got to visit.

Don't worry, nothing of value was lost.

Also, check the site now, it redirects to some forum that I'm too sketched out to sign up for.
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Eh, beyond ****girls and /b/ (Which is horrible in it's own way.) 4chan is really just a bunch of anime nerds talking about episode 104-B of Super Happy Fluffy Fuku Magical Ketchup Neko Schoolgirls~ but with moar idiocy.

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Well, 4chan is back up. I'd insert a meme here, but meh.

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To me, as I must've said somewhere else, points are quite important. Just like games. You wouldn't want to lose a game, right? So you do your best to get it back by doing some good deed.

But in some way, downmodding is like grounding someone. If you realize what you did wrong then edit your mistake, you MIGHT be undownmodded.

Well, that's what I did with Samuel after he realized that real swears weren't appropriate, and made a change in his post. So I gave his point back. :)

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Zonhin, language.

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That has been fixed. Also, I like the way you went up and said just what I did wrong. Most people who don't like your post tend to just mod you down and forget it. That makes me more angry then remorseful, at least mostly, because it's so passive aggressive.

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I agree, the 'what did I do wrong' guessing game does no-one good. Thanks for fixing that.

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Got one suggestion: perhaps add in a bit about necrobumping?

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I immediately wanted to wait a month and then post "yeah". Somehow, though, I think the joke wouldn't be possible, because somebody else would post.

Posterity.

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