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I've completed ...

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... and now there doesn't seem to be anywhere to go that I haven't completed already. I know there's more to come because ...

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... so how do I proceed? I dare say I've forgotten something I was told a dozen rooms back but at the moment I'm just stuck looking at a map with nothing new on it.
02-04-2015 at 11:45 PM
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Yeah, the game really is vague about this part.

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I think you're told this shortly before Ore Refinery, but that level is so long that you're likely to forget.

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02-04-2015 at 11:54 PM
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I went back through a whole load of levels and revisited all the secret rooms I'd found but still came up empty on the passes and I'm also missing a rooted hub authorisation, so either they're extremely well hidden or I've managed to find a route through the game (which I've now finished) which bypasses them altogether. Either way it's left me feeling a bit cheated, for want of a better word, when I really should be happy to have reached the finishing line. :(
02-10-2015 at 11:55 PM
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You've reached *a* finish line, sure, but *the* finish line? I wouldn't be so sure about that if I were you. :)

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02-11-2015 at 12:02 AM
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tumtitum wrote: went back through a whole load of levels and revisited all the secret rooms I'd found but still came up empty

Ah, but what if there are secrets you haven't found yet? If you've conquered the hold, you can now see the number of secrets per level in the Restore screen.

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02-11-2015 at 12:27 AM
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it will be quite a while before you've mastered the hold. There's also a
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Important thing to note at this point:
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tumtitum wrote: went back through a whole load of levels and revisited all the secret rooms I'd found but still came up empty

Ah, but what if there are secrets you haven't found yet? If you've conquered the hold, you can now see the number of secrets per level in the Restore screen.


Using that tip I've located all but one secret room available from the map and managed to get both Rooted Hub cards but only seven RCS unfortunately. Unless the final RCS card is in that room (which is unlikely as I've already got a card from that level) it looks like I'll have to settle for an incomplete victory after all. Oh well.
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It's possible that you had access to a stamp and forgot to collect it before you left the room. It'll still be there.

There's a list of collectible locations here: http://forum.caravelgames.com/viewtopic.php?TopicID=38190&page=0#384638

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So I went back and started the game from the very start again. Found all the secret rooms, completed all but three of them. Found all the RCS passes, completed all the extra levels, solved all of Arky's rooms, printed up the poster, got all 3 hard questions and transmitted one. And still I didn't get to save all the surfacers! So what else can I do?

If it's necessary to complete all the secret rooms then that rather runs counter to the assurance that it isn't in the game description doesn't it? After that I really can't see anything I didn't do that I should have or did do but shouldn't have.
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tumtitum wrote: got all 3 hard questions and transmitted one.


But did you transmit the hardest one?
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Is there a way to tell other than me thinking it was the hardest (which I did on account of its .. er .. Zen)?
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Regardless of what order you find the questions' locations, you will gain the questions themselves in a fixed order. So, naturally, the hardest one is the last -- that's how the game knows you found them all :D

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The nice thing about the final level is there's a Hold Complete Wall so you don't have to do it again if you want to try all the questions.
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The nice thing about the final level is there's a Hold Complete Wall so you don't have to do it again if you want to try all the questions.


A what now?
05-02-2015 at 05:11 PM
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It's a new type of gate... looks a bit like a Master Wall. It opens once you've exited via the exit stairs (thus completing the hold), and if you later restore to an earlier point, it will be open. This means that you don't have to do the final level and the big re-entrant room again just because you used the wrong question the first time, as there's one on the North wall of the Entrance that leads to a path that gets you to the exit stairs.
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That said, you get immediate feedback when you ask the right question -- and if you ask the wrong one, you can try out another question without leaving Older Holding Vats. (Speak to the Vessel standing by himself in the main corridor in 1N.)

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Well, I was trying to keep that a surprise, but yeah... things happen when you have the Vessels on the right question.

Actually, just to check: Do you have three questions or four? Because, IIRC, there is a default question, so you need to earn three and have four to have the correct one. I can't really check myself... the old Holding Vats got destroyed in the version update for me.

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Yes, you should be facing a menu like this when you talk to the guy in OHV 1N:
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If so, pick option 4 and then walk out of OHV to the south.

If not, you've got more solving to do.

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Do you actually get an answer to the question, just wondering, or is asking the question the important bit?
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The point of these questions is that they're supposed to be impossible to answer, so don't expect the vessels to get back to you.

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