Tahnan
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You know what Architecture needs? More scripting questions.

I've got an invisible NPC with a script that starts:

  Face direction northeast
  Appear at 17,5

What I can't figure out is, why doesn't this execute until turn 1? In particular, if I put in a "wait 0" command before this, the script works in exactly the same way, i.e. the character appears, facing northeast, on turn 1. No extra delay is added by the "wait 0". (As opposed to, say, if the script's first command is just "appear at 17,5": then it executes immediately upon room entrance, and putting in a "wait 0" delays that by a turn.)

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Tahnan wrote:
You know what Architecture needs? More scripting questions.

I've got an invisible NPC with a script that starts:

  Face direction northeast
  Appear at 17,5

What I can't figure out is, why doesn't this execute until turn 1? In particular, if I put in a "wait 0" command before this, the script works in exactly the same way, i.e. the character appears, facing northeast, on turn 1. No extra delay is added by the "wait 0". (As opposed to, say, if the script's first command is just "appear at 17,5": then it executes immediately upon room entrance, and putting in a "wait 0" delays that by a turn.)

Do you need the "Face northeast" part? Surely you can just start the NPC facing northeast by placing the character rotated that way, do you really need the script for it?

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This is a known bug, which will be fixed next time there's a patch that actually works.

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schep wrote:
This is a known bug, which will be fixed next time there's a patch that actually works.

Aha. I wondered if it might be. Rassafrassin' non-working patches.

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speaking of scripting weirdness, how do you do that code thing in metdroid prime the hold? i cant find a way to do it and i want to know so i can make my ocarina of time remake from drod

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vinheim wrote:
speaking of scripting weirdness, how do you do that code thing in metdroid prime the hold? i cant find a way to do it and i want to know so i can make my ocarina of time remake from drod

Just read the documentation. The help files is, ironically enough, is the best place to start with (being the ONLY place).

There are also some very good pieces of information on this page http://forum.caravelgames.com/viewsiteboard.php?b=47. I'm sure that when you finish reading all of it you will find making holds very easy.

By the way, we already have some real good people working on something like ocarina in some other thread here (just search for the word ocarina on the forum and you will find it). But you might be able to "borrow" some graphics and scripts from them.

By the way, welcome to the forum. Looking forward to see your version of Ocarina.

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PS. What I am saying is, just make the rooms first. The rest can always come later. By the time you've finished all the rooms in Hyrule, you will find it will take you much less time to add code than it is for you now.

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thank you tim, i already have a deku tree now just need to work on the rest...

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checked out some other ocarina of time topics, i think a good way to do heart pieces is give them a code like in metdroid prime, when you have four you put them in your house (the codes) which gives you a code for entry to a secret room, these secret rooms are connected to any boss room where you can end the script of an npc in that room, when you're fighting the boss it checks if the npcs are in their position and weaken depending on the number of npcs not there, this is to give the effect of you being stronger instead of the boss getting weaker, there is no staircase for the first boss as normally you wouldnt be able to get 4 heart pieces by the time you fight him

for the first boss the gohma eggs are represented by the roach queen in the tail of the gohma queen structure, its three lives are represented by three evil eyes appearing one after the other only able to be killed once it leaves the body, when i figure out how to do the metdroid prime code thing, i will give the slingshot a code which can be used in the boss room instead of all the npcs but only when the eye is red (active) there is also a brain which represents its heart which, when you destroy, will represent its death, and when you destroy it along with the egg creator (tail or roach queen) will open the green door revealing a staircase to the boss room without the boss or with its corpse there as a picture to represent the dead boss

lastly, i desperately need to know how to script the metdroid codes i dont want to use the examples of having to collect items using orbs and yellow doors or ending scripts so if you know how to do the codes (ive played your space hold jason, i know you know how to do the scripting, hehehe) please help

edit: ive attached a file to demonstrate the first boss without slingshot scripting, please view it and npc scripts in level editor first, for jtrh or tcb

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Methinks that last post deserves its own topic. BTW, that hold crashes my game of TCB. I have 3.0.2rev2, if that makes a difference.

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i made it in 2.0.16 does holds made in that work with 3.0.2rev2?

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vinheim wrote:
i made it in 2.0.16 does holds made in that work with 3.0.2rev2?

If I were you I'd try for compatibility with 3.0.0; the current patch has serious problems with it.

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Jatopian wrote:

vinheim wrote:
i made it in 2.0.16 does holds made in that work with 3.0.2rev2?

If I were you I'd try for compatibility with 3.0.0; the current patch has serious problems with it.

It's a bit more complicated than that - 3.0.2rev2 has serious problems, but any deliberate changes to scripting behavior made in it will be in future patches as well. So, you should try to avoid using any scripting that 3.0.2rev2 will change (look at the change log), it's best to change that.

Other than that, though, I wouldn't worry about crashes in 3.0.2rev2.

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I'm going to re-hijack-and-necro my own thread, rather than post a new one, 'cause what I've got is such a simple question and I'm sure I'm just missing something in the help files...

Is there a scripting command to make a sworded NPC swordless? To have, say, a guard or a decoy wandering around without a sword, without putting in oremites? ("Imperative: Sword on/off"?) I feel like there must be, and I'm just not seeing it.

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Tahnan wrote:
I'm going to re-hijack-and-necro my own thread, rather than post a new one, 'cause what I've got is such a simple question and I'm sure I'm just missing something in the help files...

Is there a scripting command to make a sworded NPC swordless? To have, say, a guard or a decoy wandering around without a sword, without putting in oremites? ("Imperative: Sword on/off"?) I feel like there must be, and I'm just not seeing it.

Annoyingly, no.

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I agree that there should be, if that's what you're suggesting

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I thought there was one...
Well, would you look at that. Nothing. Yeah, this is needed.

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