Mr. Slice
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Ok, I think that there should be a way to undo the restart button. That way, well, for example: You think it's over so you are hitting the restart button, when you suddenly realize a way. But... it's too late. You think it's good? No?

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Yeah, I've done this multiple times too. Good idea.

Welcome to the forum by the way, Mr Slice. May you slice and dice your way through many a roach.

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I have run into this a few times - my solution is to use the Restore function from the menu. It doesn't let you undo the first restart, but it does let you undo any further restarts to go back to previous checkpoints.

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Mattcrampy wrote:
I have run into this a few times - my solution is to use the Restore function from the menu.

Exactly what this request would negate the need for. It has my approval.

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NoahT wrote:
Exactly what this request would negate the need for. It has my approval.

Mine too, except I'd add a request for a key that takes you directly from the game to the restore menu...

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IF this was implemented, I would suggest the button be T. Or maybe Shift R or something like that. You know how Alt-Tab works? It goes backwards, so I would think that Shift R is like the opposite of R.

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Here's a thought: why not the current undo key? So if you press 'undo', it takes you back to the state you were in before you pressed R.

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Mattcrampy wrote:
Here's a thought: why not the current undo key?

Simple. Intuitive. Me Likee.

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Welcome to the forums!

This has indeed been a pet hatred of mine for a few years. I proposed a similar solution a while back, and also a way of cycling through the savepoints. They were received rather well so hopefully a solution will be implemented.

Interestingly, I viewed this board with the intent of posting a new feature request linked to hitting Xs and avoiding the "Oops, I hit 'r' (thinking I'd previously hit an X) and now I have to start the whole room again" syndrome.

As it's a similar request to yours, I hope you'll forgive me if I post it here rather than create a new thread. It would also be handy to have all these requests in one place.

My request would be to highlight the last X hit so that the player can tell visually what whould happen if R was hit. This would be well in keeping with the DROD idea of hiding nothing from the player.

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No it doesn't. I've tried it, and it just does nothing.



Maybe you are running on a different server, or something. But it doesn't work for me. If it doesn't work for other people, I stick by my suggestion of Shift R.

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Mr. Slice: It doesn't work; it's a theoretical implementation Mattcrampy proposes.

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I guess just an R would be easier than Shift R, but it should be implemented soon. Else wise, those people who are still in 'need' aren't going to be that satisfactory.

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As with every software development project there is a release schedule/window. Each iteration requires development and testing. This traditionally takes longer than is expected, and usually becomes something that no-one actually wanted.

As far as DROD is concerned however, the developers listen to all that is said, and implement those ideas (such as yours) which are well received by the community. The fact that the people who are providing the DROD experience are players themselves says everything.

I'm sorry if it seems that I'm delving too deep, but the idea of DROD players being "unsatisfied" triggered this reaction. Let's wait until your request has been noted, and I'm sure it will appear in the game at some point.

Until then, F4 is your friend

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Actually, I'd like to make an addendum to that: the developers implement features based on their judgement of whether it would be a good fit for the game. They use a variety of information for this, including how much the player base likes the idea, but often there's ideas that the player base likes that the developers think fail other criteria.

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Well, I do believe that you're connected to the programmers somehow. If you liked this I would think that you could..convince... No! I'm crazy!

Although, at the same time, I'm actually wondering if their judgment would be hopefully correct. Else, then never mind.

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I am 'connected' to the programmers through being friends with them and working towards the common goal of worldwide DROD domination or something like that. I do not attempt to grab their ear or anything so crass as that, because they're the ones that will be doing the work. It's entirely their call.

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Do you really want world-wide Drod domination? That would actually be pretty nice. In..my...opinion, yes.

If any game editors have gotten to this forum, then I hope they either say something about, in a few months yes, or they don't.

As long as they see this...

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Another really nice reason to be able to undo "restart": so terribly frustrating to hit "r" to go back to the last checkpoint, only to discover that in the 200 moves I've spent in the room, I didn't actually hit the checkpoint.

Incidentally:

Mattcrampy wrote:
Actually, I'd like to make an addendum to that: the developers implement features based on their judgement of whether it would be a good fit for the game. They use a variety of information for this, including how much the player base likes the idea, but often there's ideas that the player base likes that the developers think fail other criteria.

I do hope the developers pass that information along. Well, OK, Unlimited Undo has been beaten to death, and it's been explained why the developers don't want it. But lots of requests kind of just fall into the dustbin, and if there's an active choice among the developers not to include it, it'd be good to know.

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I'm actually surprised how long this "battle" of whether or not undoing Restart actually is. But it's true about that Tahnan. It really is kinda stupid to do that.

Anyone else have suggestions of why or why not?!



EDIT: Actually, it's not that much of a battle anymore. Can you guess why?

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Mr. Slice wrote:
EDIT: Actually, it's not that much of a battle anymore. Can you guess why?

Everybody wants it, including me?

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Yes. Very much so. As said in a particular FAQ site (which I don't know where) the game programmers will make more Drod games if the demand is high.

And unless the demand for this is apparently low, I declare a strike!




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Ummm... they are making more DROD games. Unlike other game developers I could mention, the Caravel Team is very nice and lets people know what ideas the have in the works most of the time. So yes, a fourth DROD is in the works along with other things.

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Yay.

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