Rabscuttle
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Pushing clones into water is a bit weird with different player roles.

Currently:
Pushing a waterskipper clone into deep water is fatal.
Pushing a mud baby clone into shallow water is not fatal.

Shallow water traversal rules are ignored too - if shallow water traversal is turned off, a Beethro clone can be pushed into shallow water without a problem.

Also:
Construct clones can be pushed into oremites.
Fegundo clones can't be pushed into firetraps.


Flying clones are safe to push over pits and deep water, so there is a precedent for a clone's safety being determined by the player role.

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How about hot tile/spikes/puff immunity? Are any clones failing to get any of those when the player role has them?

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Puff clones survive on hot tiles (incorrect) and are the winner whether they are pushed into puffs or puffs are pushed into them.

Wubba clones die on spikes.

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Rabscuttle wrote:
Puff clones survive on hot tiles (incorrect) and are the winner whether they are pushed into puffs or puffs are pushed into them.

Wubba clones die on spikes.

I might be misremembering but I believe when I spoke to hyperme, he said he'd be changing the puff PRs and clones onto hot tiles behaviour (to they die!).

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Maybe for 5.2? In the 5.1.1 version I have, puff player role and puff clone survive on hot tiles.

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Player roles are a little muddled at the moment, leading to inconsistent behaviour between the actual player, clones, and temporal projections. I'm going to try and get it all sorted for 5.1.1

Clones should hopefully be the last sticking point, but if you've noticed any player/clone/projection inconsistencies, please post them here. Puffs and Constructs have been fixed in a PR to die on tiles what kill them, but that hasn't made it to a beta release yet.

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For completeness, dropping a waterskipper clone off a raft or bridge into deep water will also kill it.

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hyperme has submitted fixes for the next build:

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Testing in 5.1.1.424X.

-Pushing a waterskipper clone onto deep water or shallow water is not fatal.
-Pushing a puff clone into hot tiles is fatal.
-Pushing a fegundo clone into a firetrap is not fatal.
-Pushing a construct clone into oremites is fatal.
-Wubba clones survive on spikes.
-Moving a platform on water from under a waterskipper clone is not fatal.
-Dropping a bridge under a waterskipper clone and creating water by doing so is not fatal.
-Puff clones continue to be the winner when pushed into puffs or puffs are pushed into them. I'm guessing this is intentional at this point, but since it was raised I'm noting it for completeness.

Shallow water tests:
I'm only testing for three roles with different default behavior at the moment. If it's considered necessary to check every role, well, I'll get on that but it'll take me a while.
-Pushing an aumtlich clone into shallow water is fatal if shallow water traversal is set to default or Cannot enter, not fatal if a power token is activated with the above setting, and not fatal if shallow water traversal is set to Wades or Hides.
-Pushing a Beethro clone into shallow water is fatal if shallow water traversal is set to Cannot enter, unless a power token is activated. It is not fatal otherwise.
-Pushing a soldier clone into shallow water is fatal if shallow water traversal is set to Cannot enter, unless a power token is activated. It is not fatal otherwise.