Pilchard VIII
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You know what, I just had a thought. So far, I've posted two holds and both of them have over 8.0 at the moment. Perhaps after KPVIII3 I should appeal for Smitemaster Selection creation. But not yet.

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Hikari
Level: Smiter

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.......whee, a speech bug thing...
Goblin in Epilogue Entrance is apparently *supposed* to name off the private beta testers or something, but... doesn't.

Also, Pilchard's speech in 1S seems a little stilted at the end. "Who are the others?" "Anyways, I have nothing else to tell you." And Beethro just accepts that as an answer? That seems sorely out of character.

Gotta have the ending *proper*, you know?

Oh, and, um... thanks for publicizing my reaction the first time I was ever exposed to Fooby the Watermelon ^^;; That *hurt* at the time, dammit!

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jbluestein
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I found two potential issues with this hold so far:

Castle: Sixth Floor, 1N1W has a trivial solution:



[EDIT: Whoops, I just noticed that Briareos already pointed this one out, so never mind.]

Castle: The Spire, 4N has a scripting error:

I killed the mud mothers on the left, leaving one mudbaby in the alcove, went over to the other alcove and killed the mud mothers and babies over there. I then went back to the other alcove and killed the last mudbaby, but the doors did not drop for the guards. I restored and did it the more intended way (clear left alcove completely, then clear right alcove, and the doors dropped). I'm not sure how repeatable this is, though.

Enjoyable hold so far, though!


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Pilchard VIII
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All of the bugs are fixed. Unfortunately, I couldn't find the cause of the mud mother glitch.

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Briareos
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Pilchard VIII wrote:
All of the bugs are fixed. Unfortunately, I couldn't find the cause of the mud mother glitch.

Whoa... I nearly died when I saw over 70 high scores disappear from my Scores page and I dropped a place - then I saw it was all demos from this hold that were missing... *phew*



np: The Go Find - Igloo (Miami)

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Pilchard VIII
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Well, thank goodness for that.

Ps. 456. Catch my drift?

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jbluestein
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Briareos wrote:

Pilchard VIII wrote:
All of the bugs are fixed. Unfortunately, I couldn't find the cause of the mud mother glitch.

Whoa... I nearly died when I saw over 70 high scores disappear from my Scores page and I dropped a place - then I saw it was all demos from this hold that were missing... *phew*

Did I miss the part where it was explained why this was a good thing? All of my high scores from this hold have vanished as well, and somehow I don't find myself saying *phew*.

What gives?

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Briareos
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jbluestein wrote:
Did I miss the part where it was explained why this was a good thing? All of my high scores from this hold have vanished as well, and somehow I don't find myself saying *phew*.

What gives?

Well, after a hold update they're getting marked as unverified and need to be reverified - just wait a bit, and they should all get reinstated unless they're no longer possible with the updated hold...

Better now?

np: Bomb The Bass vs. Lali Puna - Clearcut Original Mix (Clear Cut)

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Briareos
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Pilchard VIII wrote:
Well, thank goodness for that.

Ps. 456. Catch my drift?

Well, as long as it's a drift up in rank points I'll gladly catch it...

np: Bomb The Bass vs. Lali Puna - Recut Herrmann & Kleine Mix (Clear Cut)

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jbluestein
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Briareos wrote:

jbluestein wrote:
Did I miss the part where it was explained why this was a good thing? All of my high scores from this hold have vanished as well, and somehow I don't find myself saying *phew*.

What gives?

Well, after a hold update they're getting marked as unverified and need to be reverified - just wait a bit, and they should all get reinstated unless they're no longer possible with the updated hold...

Better now?

I seem to be having bad luck with demo verification lately, but I guess I should probably wait to start bitching about that. Oh wait...too late.



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jbluestein
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Well, I mastered this hold last night. Overall, I found some of the puzzles to be quite good. I was disappointed in the secret rooms, particularly after the excellent challenge level in Pilchard's first hold.

Many puzzles were easy, some more difficult, and there were a few that took me several shots before I figured out a good strategy.

I don't really see the point of the weird cartoon stuff that peppers some of the later secret rooms, but...

I give the hold a 7 with 5 brains of difficulty.

Looking forward to the final chapter!


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Briareos
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jbluestein wrote:
I don't really see the point of the weird cartoon stuff that peppers some of the later secret rooms, but...

Wheee! *splort*

np: Mr. Lif - For You (Mo' Mega)

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Jatopian
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Hey, before I play onward, am I supposed to encounter Eighth Floor before the Spire or did I grab the wrong hold version?

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Briareos
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Jatopian wrote:
Hey, before I play onward, am I supposed to encounter Eighth Floor before the Spire or did I grab the wrong hold version?

Uh, not really - it goes "Seventh Floor", "The Spire", "Top Of The Tower", "Eight Floor"...

How'd you manage to do that?

np: SCSI-9 - On The Edge (The Line Of Nine)

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Jatopian
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Briareos wrote:

Jatopian wrote:
Hey, before I play onward, am I supposed to encounter Eighth Floor before the Spire or did I grab the wrong hold version?

Uh, not really - it goes "Seventh Floor", "The Spire", "Top Of The Tower", "Eight Floor"...

How'd you manage to do that?

I didn't. I simply was confused by the heterodox structure of this hold.

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larrymurk
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Some design issues I didn't like:
- Many rooms have you start on force arrows.
- Non-intuitive scripting was used in many rooms. For example, one room is clearly not solveable w/o scripting. It just so happens that once all the enemies are killed a yellow door magically opens and a character runs to hit another orb so Beethro can exit the room. Why not use a green door or at least have the character say he'll open the doors once the monsters are killed.
- I think there are several more rooms that could be marked uninteresting like those on the credits level.

On the brighter side this is a fun hold that provides a lot of entertainment.

I'd say most of the rooms were fairly easy <= 5, but there were several 7 or so difficulty ones thrown in also.

Jason
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Ooops. Found a bug. In the CLOD it says spinning tar baby! It's a mud baby!

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Pilchard VIII
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Oops...

<Turns to intercom>
All beta-testers please report to my office for immediate execution.
<Turns away from intercom>

I'm gonna pick a new host of testers for KPVIIID3. But the ones I know did really well are gonna be invited.

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Ezlo
Level: Smitemaster

Rank Points: 1214
Registered: 01-08-2006
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I hope I did well...

Pilchard VIII
Level: Smiter
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Pm sent.

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Hikari
Level: Smiter

Rank Points: 438
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o_O Does 'immediate execution' mean 'preemptively signed up for KPVIIID3'?

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Jason
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Did I do good? I would like to test.

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tokyokid
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I tested too, but I only pointed out a few bugs, but I'd love to beta test KPVIIID3!

Pilchard VIII
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I might release a demo soon... But only if you behave!

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maestro8
Level: Delver

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File: K2RttsC-TS4NBug.demo (3.6 KB)
Downloaded 54 times.
License: Public Domain

I ran into the mud mother bug, too... attached is a demo that should illustrate the problem.

Other than this, I've been cruising through the Castle... fun hold! There's a nice mix of difficulties, and a little hack'n'slash thrown in for diversion. I, too, am a little disappointed about starting rooms on force arrows, but it's nothing I can't fix with a "Restore"... the save points at the rooms' exits helps with this.

Hi ho, hi ho, it's off to smite I go!

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Syntax
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Finally got round to finishing the last few levels.

Absolutely beautifully written, excellent scripting and overall a great hold! Thanks for all the hard work

coppro
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Just a warning: The ending won't work so well in 3.0 when you can't strike a nonexistant orb.

Pilchard VIII
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Okay, thanks.

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Doom
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A few small things: It's possible to ignore the hint in 3N2W and go after the characters by playing with the orbs. This is just another place where you can get stuck, but not 'that' serious, since it involves an obvious unintented route, and is easy to revert by restoring without losing progress.

A small note about using modified Neather-rooms from AE with no warning: I was stuck in Castle-Sixth Floor-1N for a while because I couldn't find any more monsters to kill. I was suspecting a bug already, since characters don't count as monsters and the in-site image verified that there were no spiders in the room. It took a good while until I found out that you had used Neather, who counts as a monster, and exits the room only after you walk into a certain point.

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RoboBob3000
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It looks like there's a bad demo sitting in the #1 spot of the epilogue, 1S.

Also, if this hold is going to be updated, I'd suggest making one more pass over for spelling mistakes. I didn't keep track as I was going through, but a re-read should be enough to spot the the handful that occurred. The word "spoilt" should be "spoiled".

Edit: Also, the end text thanks me for testing. Hmm.

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