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averagemoe wrote:
I've never been one to be afraid of addressing the elephant in the room, so I'm going to say it.

The file attached to slimm tom's last post is a patch for DROD RPG.

No it’s not. A .dmg file is a disk image file for MacOS.

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File: drod.5.1.1_454x.zip (1.5 MB)
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Time for a new x build because 5.1.1 is still full of problems it seems. Include a bunch of regressions. There are fixes for:

Placing doubles extends Image Overlays - Regression in the function of Image Overlays. The turn tracking has been fixed to prevent desyncing.
Hold import problems - Nasty issue with updating holds. The game would either become unreponsive for a long time, or worse, crash. A flaw in the improved import algorithm has been fixed to stop these issues.
Invisible NPCs not speaking after End commands - Another regression from memory optimization. Invisible NPCs will no longer be marked as dead when Ended, so that they can still speak.
Armed NPCs with custom graphics don't work good - Not a regression this time but it's only a graphical issue. Armed NPCs will now always draw as if they are armed NPCs, even if their base character is unarmed.

No fixes for Mac-only issues, as I don't have access to a Mac and it's unlikely I will in the near future.

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Hey, it's me! I'm hoping I can find some time soon to actually look into some Mac issues. I can't promise any quick results, as these issues seem to be quite complicated.

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File: drod.5.1.1.454.beta.dmg (14 MB)
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Took a bit longer than expected (sorry about that), but attached is a new build (454). Same disclaimer as always applies regarding the .dat files.

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Thanks slimm tom.

Notes on the 5.1.1.454 Mac build for the devs:

- Importing a hold that showed "Updated" still crashes the app:

Assertion error in line 1999 of DbXML.cpp: "bytesRead <= XML_PARSER_BUFF_SIZE"
Assertion error in line 1999 of DbXML.cpp: "bytesRead <= XML_PARSER_BUFF_SIZE"
Assertion error in line 398 of DbPackedVars.cpp: "wVarNameSize < 256"

- Crashes continue in rooms that have speech on characters with "None" type, and also on the Treacle Stew initial cutscene.

Assertion error in line 220 of FaceWidget.cpp: "eSpeaker < Speaker_Count"

- The Pit Thing voice has returned in TSS: The Forthcoming Way of Things.

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Thank you, slimm tom!

Once we hammer out these issues, I'd like to work with you to make an official Mac release and also update the Mac binary on Steam.

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File: drod.5.1.1.RC.2022-12-09.zip (2.8 MB)
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Here's a CaravelNet-enabled RC patch for Windows.

5.1.1.459

Please post new topics with any issues that need to be fixed for an official 5.1.1 release.

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Hi folks! Very excited to see a bunch of bug fixes and features coming into DROD. Didn't expect the development to be still active on a game almost 9 years after its last major release.

I'd be happy to help test the nightly/RC builds and report issues I see. (I don't think I'll be much help in trying to solve them, though.) For context, I'm coming in from here.

I've tried to run this Mac build shared by slimm tom a few days ago but I get an error (see attachment).

I've followed the instructions from here about moving drod5_0.dat from the "DROD: The Second Sky v5.1.0.6513 (Mac OSX Intel, x86-64 Binary)" from here.

I've also tried moving across the dat files in the Steam version of TSS (but there's four .dat files in that case named drod-tss5_0[,_10,_20,_150].dat), but that didn't work either.

I've checked the error logs in ~/Library/Application\ Support/Caravel/ (where at least the Steam version logs error messages?), but there doesn't seem to be anything new there.

Does anyone know what the missing files could be?

Thanks!

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The latest Mac build is here (you should have better luck with it running Treacle Stew):

drod.5.1.1.454-speech.beta.dmg
(found in this thread)

You only need to move the one file "drod5_0.dat" into the package (in Contents/Resources/Data/)

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disoriented wrote:
You only need to move the one file "drod5_0.dat" into the package (in Contents/Resources/Data/)

Thanks disoriented. I've tried with the build you shared, but I still get the same error.

I attach a screenshot of the contents of the .app. The "drod5_0.dat" I have is 424,067,648 bytes. Does that sound right?

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All of that looks correct (your screenshot vs my files). I'm on Ventura 13.1.

Try making sure you have sufficient memory and disk space.

You can also try renaming your ~/Library/Application Support/Caravel/drod-5_0 folder and launch the game again.

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disoriented wrote:
All of that looks correct (your screenshot vs my files). I'm on Ventura 13.1.

Try making sure you have sufficient memory and disk space.

That's strange...

I'm on Monterey 12.1. It's a 2017 13-inch MacBook with 8 GB of memory (and 15 GB of free disk space). I'm surprised this can be the issue as I can run the Steam versions of TSS/GatEB.

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File: drod.5.1.1.481_RC.zip (1.6 MB)
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Time for a new RC build with fixes for regressions that are literally months to years old. Still no CNet so the fix everyone wants is less useful. With some help from Schik this build now connects to CNet. Huzzah!

What is fixed:

Hold import crash but for real this time I promise.

No level ending stats. Funny numbers restored.

Problem with NPC on platform. Thing that was only half fixed now fully fixed. yay!

Keypad problems. Thanks to Kieran Millar you can now more orthogonally again.

Face fix. Player roles that should have a face had Beethro instead due to rewrite issues. Now faces are back as they should be.

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File: drod.5.1.1.RC.2023-05-17.zip (3.3 MB)
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Thank you, hyperme, for the updated build!

Here's one by me with the updated SDL and SDL_ttf DLLs.

5.1.1.483 build changes:

! Upgrade SDL2 (2.0.12 -> 2.26.1) and SDL2_ttf (2.0.14 -> 2.20.1) and accept alternative arrow key bindings. Topic PR
* Fix: Crash/corrupted played save data when importing newer versions of holds Topic PR
* Fix: Invisible scripted character dialog missing Topic PR
* Fix: Placing doubles extends Image Overlay display turns Topic PR
* Fix: Disarmed custom graphic sprite display for weapon-having NPCs Topic PR
* Fix: some long-lived screen effects not displaying. Topic PR
* Fix: Crash on hold update when the player has a lot of relevant internal data to upgrade. Topic PR
* Fix: crash when NPC moves a platform. Topic PR
* Fix: custom character face not displaying. Topic PR

Edit: Steam builds for GatEB and TSS are updated too.

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Steam-drod just updated to 5.1.1.483.

GatEB patched successfully, but I'm getting a "Manifest Unavailable" error for TSS.

This prevents launching the game through the client, because Steam wants to get the update first. At least the old version still works through the executable.

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Doom wrote:
Steam-drod just updated to 5.1.1.483.

GatEB patched successfully, but I'm getting a "Manifest Unavailable" error for TSS.

This prevents launching the game through the client, because Steam wants to get the update first. At least the old version still works through the executable.

Thanks for confirming you're seeing this; I am too. Not sure what is causing this. Looking into it...

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I pushed another TSS build to Steam, which is the same (almost, but not exactly), and updates seem to be working for me again.

Seems like this was some kind of transient Steam build system bug?

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Can confirm that TSS is working now. I was also able to update a couple of holds that were crashing the game before

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This beta update finally fixed the issue of the game not using the full screen!

On the other hand it now has issues fitting the fonts, most notably in the main menu, but also in some in game menus (like the raft destination selection in Gunthro's).
All other text is affected as well, albeit not as strongly as the main menu (e.g. the ticker text in the bottom, all the text in the options etc.)

I'll attach a file so you can see it (image is scaled down, original is 2560x1440).

(Non-Steam TSS)

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Thanks for the report Sti, is it the same as this issue: https://forum.caravelgames.com/viewtopic.php?TopicID=45902 ?

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Yep, it's exactly that. The thread seems to indicate it was fixed in the Steam version but not in the non-Steam one? Or did I miss an updated download somewhere?

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File: drod.5.1.1.515.beta.dmg (14 MB)
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It's been a while, but here's a new Mac build.

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Is anyone else running the 5.1.1.515 beta? I am getting a crash when navigating to the Hold Select screen and selecting the hold called "Blackout". The crash happens instantly as soon as this hold is selected in the list. No other hold in the list causes this, and there is nothing in drod.err or drod.log.
Does this happen to anyone else?

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File: drod.5.1.1.533_RC.zip (1.6 MB)
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New Windows RC with fixes to regressions:

* Some subtitle effects, such as the room lock indicator and briar root information, would disappear instantly. Topic #1, #2 PR
* Wubba clones would not be burned by hot tiles. Topic PR

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I have updated the latest RC in the previous post to fix a missed case in a fix.

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I'm still seeing the font problems from this thread.

Windows, non-Steam, 5.1.1.533



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The font issue is caused by one of the dll files DROD uses, so using a different executable won't help.

For now, you should downgrade the SDL2_ttf.dll to version 20.0.14, which is available here. (Specifically the SDL2_ttf.dll file in bin/x86)

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File: drod.5.1.1.RC.2023-09-06.zip (2.6 MB)
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Here is the final RC of 5.1.1, which contains fixes up to PR 539 on Github. I'm making this version available in a new patch, available in the Downloads section of the forum, and in new full TSS game installers. I'll also be posting a new version of this on Steam.

If my records are correct, this version contains the following fixes since my last build here (thanks, hyperme!):

* Fix regression: font rendering problems introduced in 2023-05-17 build from upgrading the sdl_ttf library version. (Revert to earlier library version.) Topic PR
* Fix lock room indicator not appearing.
* Fix wubba clone hot tile damage. Topic PR
* Hold import crash/fixes. Topic PR

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Any chance of a linux release?

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kikuchiyo wrote:
Any chance of a linux release?

Unfortunately, I've never been involved in producing Linux builds; historically, that was Trick's area, but they haven't been around for years now. If someone would like to step up and push the needed buttons, I'd be happy to work with them.