×08/03/2020: More levels added. Now you can explore slightly more of the city. Hooray!

×08/20/2020: Level 10 fixed and Levels 12 - 18 added. The puzzles are becoming slightly tougher now.

×08/21/2020: Levels 14, 15, 17 and 18 fixed, and oversight that allowed you to skip to Level 8 fixed.

×10/01/2020: Levels 19-22 added.

×10/25/2020: Levels 23-25 added.

×11/14/2020: Levels 26-30 added.

×11/20/2020: Levels 31-34 added.

×12/17/2020: Levels 35-38 added.

×1/11/2021: Fixed various backtracking issues, as well as faulty scripting and broken puzzles. Added levels 39-42.

×1/13/2021: Fixed various backtracking issues and trivial and impossible puzzles.

×04/12/2023: Added levels 43 thru 45.

×04/24/2023: Added levels 46 thru 51.

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Inner Sanctum 1W and 2N1W : can enter with sword, seems broken

Imperial Garden: The Entrance: it is possible to stand outside the arrows, and the room solves itself

The Roots 2S1E : it is possible to stab wraithwing at the entrance and wait: briar opens yellow door and kills roache, seems broken

Imperial Armory 2E : Wraithwing may be killed in the entrance, no need to use the bomb
Imperial Armory 1N 2E : too easy, just hit the 3 orbs, that’s it , no puzzle or fun here. This level is the weakest of the hold

×The civilization - Maybe add conquer tokens to various rooms so it is clear what was completed. You should also make it possible to traverse the city after the levels are complete without going through the levels again. (See 3S. And 2S1E. I think it is impossible to return from 1S3E because of City Plumbing Revisited.

Tech Deck Basement:
1S - The challenge doesn't seem to add anything since you can just leave one queen while clearing the trapdoors.

2W - Challenge: Don't drop any trapdoors.

3W - I think the secret can just be used as the main room.

Lower Tech Deck Basement:
1E - The victory speech triggers even if Beethro is trapped.

Training Base:
Entrance - The challenge also triggers when killing the slayers from a clear room. (That is ok. Just be aware of it.)

1S2E - How is the secret room harder than the main room?

1N - Challenge: Don't kill all the slayers and clear the room.

Serpentine Snakepit:
Entrance,1S - Challenge: Don't hit the orb.

Inner Sanctum:
1E - Most of the work can be done by the entrance. Is that intended? (You don't need to use the orb and hot tile.)

Imperial Gardens:
1S - Difficult room. The speech "barely made it" triggers even if there is no way out. You can also potentially have a case where there is a way out, but not all rock golems can be reached.

1W - You can just hit the pressure plate and escape safely. The intended(?) solution also seems to be mostly waiting.

1E - Move the arrow so you can return to the City Plumbing System immediately after returning from it, without having to reopen the arrow.

2N - The challenge triggers even if you are trapped. The language on the scroll isn't precise, since you are required to step on the second and third plates. (You anyway step on the first one.)

City Plumbing System:
Entrance - It isn't clear which squares take you back to the previous level. (When you don't want to go.) Backtracking problem, since if you go back, the room is solved and you can't go forward again.

1N1E - Backtracking problem, since you can't continue after solving and moving back or forward to another room before solving 1N.

1E - Backtracking problem. If you leave back west, you can't return.

The Roots:
1S1E - You can solve the room after the path from the north is blocked.

Imperial Armory:
1N2E - You only need to block the NW briar. The NE one can be ignored.

Intermission: Nebulous Network:
The coloring of the level makes it difficult to identify some things.

2S1W - Tricky room.


Arsenal Storage:
Entrance - Is the intended solution to get around the slayers or to kill them? I don't think I have seen this method of killing slayers in tight spaces in other holds.

1N - The challenge triggers without completing the room. The challenge itself is somewhat of a magic sequence. It is short, and at the beginning of the room, so it is not too bad.

City Plumbing System Revisited:
1E - Backtracking problems if you solve room and go south.

2N1W - The only room I haven't solved yet.


The Colossal Clasp:
1W - Challenge: Don't push mirrors.

Express Zone Alpha:
2N - Add a conquer token on the yellow door for tracking solving. Add a green door for quick passage through a solved room. Challenge: Don't use mimic.

Imperial Snakepen:
Entrance - Challenge: Don't turn.

Beethro's House;
Entrance - Challenge: Don't turn.

1N1E - Challenge: Don't hit orb and don't drop trapdoor.

1S - Backtracking problem. If you don't solve this room last and continue west you are stuck. In any case, you can't return or traverse the level again in the forward direction. (This also means you can't get back on track if you don't go north from 1S4E in the city.)

King Dugan's Castle:
West side - Make sure all rooms are traversable in both directions with the room cleared/uncleared and the level cleared/uncleared.

King Dugan's Detainment:
2N1E - I realize I missed this room when playing, and now can't get back. (Various backtracking problems.)

Imperial Barracks:
2N2E - Keeping the adder out of the trap is annoying. Unless that is an important part of the puzzle (that is, figuring out where to start) the trap can be removed.

King Dugan's Catacombs:
2E - Broken. The tunnel north should be behind a green door.

Dugandy Sewer Line:
1E - Nice challenge.

1N2E - I didn't use the tunnels.

Underground Lake:
1E - Challenge: Don't use potion.

1S1E - You are missing a arrow on the weapon token. (And you don't need two potions.)

Imperial Reservoir:
1W - Challenge: Don't use the potion.

1S - Challenge: Don't use the potion. (The potion is available pretty late, so there isn't much point in it anyway.)

×Civilization: Got backtracking issues fixed.

Tech Deck Basement: The initial location of the challenge was intentional, since I wanted to give the player an easy challenge, but I changed it to your suggestion instead.

The secret is actually slightly more complicated than the regular version, because the arrows mean you have to be specific about how you navigate the trapdoors which wasn't true in the main version.

Speech in Lower Tech Deck fixed.

Training Base:

Challenge fixed to not trigger if you cleared the room before killing all the slayers.

1S2E is harder than the main room because you have two slayers blocking your path instead of one, and having to reorient your sword for the evil eyes plus the amount of turns extra from the entrance up north means the wisp that triggers the pressure plate has more time to catch up with you.

Serpentine Snakepit:

I didn't implement these challenges, because they felt too fiddly (I think the only way you can kill the serpents without closing the doors is with the Slayer, who is difficult to keep still in these rooms).

Inner Sanctum:

That solution was definitely not intentional. I got it fixed.

Imperial Gardens:

1S: Speech fixed to trigger upon room exit after hitting the orb.

1W: The solution was intended for you to manipulate the roaches, and then wait for the briar to clear them, so I fixed the token in a way similar to Inner Sanctum 1E.

1E: Arrow moved for easy return.

City Plumbing System:

Sadly, I am not sure how to fix the backtracking problems because the theme is closing green doors intentionally preventing you from returning if you didn't clear the rooms in the right order or in the right way, so for example I made it intentional that you had to clear 1N before 1N1E otherwise you would be softlocked by the green doors.

The Roots 1S1E:

Placed hot tiles along NPC's path and in front of it to prevent briar blocking it.

Imperial Armory:

That was initially intentional, so the other briar acted as a harasser rather than a primary puzzle element, but I just got rid of it since it wasn't even functioning as a harasser well.

Nebulous Network:

Can you please provide examples of the Sepia coloring making things difficult to identify/find? I made sure that the textures would distinguish the areas because of the sepia toning.

Arsenal Storage:

Entrance: The intended solution is to run from/avoid the Slayers.

1N: I intended for the challenge to require killing the serpent before clearing the room.

Plumbing System Revisited:

Fixed backtracking issue in 1E. I didn't even intend for the player to go down to 1S1E that early.

Colossal Clasp:

I don't think I can implement this challenge, because there is no "wait while item at" script for Mirrors or anything else, and there is no "Wait for event Mirror Pushed" script either. In fact, the challenge I have in the room below it doesn't work if you push the mirror with your sword, so I will have to get rid of it.

Challenges for levels after CC:

I will implement them in the next version after the one coming up.

Express Zone Alpha backtracking issue/conquer token:

Fixed.

Backtracking issue in Beethro's House:

Originally, I made it intentional for you to not be able to go back through that way for story purposes, but I fixed it for players' convenience.

King Dugan's Castle West Side:

I added green doors in 1W and 1W1E so that the player would have to solve them on the first try.

Imperial Barracks:

I didn't intend for there to be an unreachable adder trap. Fixed now.

King Dugan's Catacombs:

Green door added in front of north tunnel.

Dugandy Sewer Line:

I initially kept the tunnels there on purpose to make manipulation of the roaches easier, but I suppose it isn't necessary if you can solve without it.

Underground Lake:

I fixed the weapon token issue. I intentionally included the extra decoy potion since I couldn't solve it with one, but I suppose it makes the room too easy/trivial with it.

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Civilization: Got backtracking issues fixed.

Conquer tokens should be added also when there are no backtracking problems.

Speech in Lower Tech Deck fixed.

Doesn't trigger if you don't go north at all. (Dropping the trapdoors before opening the orb makes the room trivial.)

Training Base:

Challenge fixed to not trigger if you cleared the room before killing all the slayers.

Is the challenge awarded when the roaches are killed before the slayers? (It should.)

Imperial Gardens:

1S: Speech fixed to trigger upon room exit after hitting the orb.

You can leave with the room unclear, and potentially have the room unclearable with trapped live rock golems.

1W: The solution was intended for you to manipulate the roaches, and then wait for the briar to clear them, so I fixed the token in a way similar to Inner Sanctum 1E.

Broken since you can enter with sword and then exit from yellow door.

City Plumbing System:

Sadly, I am not sure how to fix the backtracking problems because the theme is closing green doors intentionally preventing you from returning if you didn't clear the rooms in the right order or in the right way, so for example I made it intentional that you had to clear 1N before 1N1E otherwise you would be softlocked by the green doors.

1. Remove the return path through the green doors and arrows in the entrance. (They only cause backtracking problems if used.)

2. Prevent returning to the previous level after clearing the room on the way in. (For example, add a yellow one time pressure plate on (31,13-19) which will close a yellow door on the return tiles (5,15-17). There are also other options.)

3. Might as well also remove the return path green doors in 1E.

After doing this, the backtracking issues are contained in this small level, and I think they can stay given the theme. (I am not an HA.)

The Roots 1S1E:

Placed hot tiles along NPC's path and in front of it to prevent briar blocking it.

That isn't necessary and doesn't help. Not necessary because the briar can't reach that are anyway. Doesn't help because the bridge can still be blocked.

Nebulous Network:

Can you please provide examples of the Sepia coloring making things difficult to identify/find?

It makes it difficult to distinguish between wraithwings and fegundos, rock golems and obstacles, serpent type, and door colors (especially green and blue).

Colossal Clasp:

I don't think I can implement this challenge, because there is no "wait while item at" script for Mirrors or anything else, and there is no "Wait for event Mirror Pushed" script either. In fact, the challenge I have in the room below it doesn't work if you push the mirror with your sword, so I will have to get rid of it.

There are a fair number of mirror challenges around, so it should be possible. There are definitely challenges to break mirrors which can be used instead.

Express Zone Alpha backtracking issue/conquer token:

Fixed.

(2N) Add conquer tokens on the rest of the yellow door to force the player to step on it on the way through.

Imperial Barracks:

I didn't intend for there to be an unreachable adder trap. Fixed now.

Referring to (19,20).

King Dugan's Catacombs:

Green door added in front of north tunnel.

Still broken because you can clear the room, leave from the entrance, and then use the tunnels.

×Using the editor:

Cryogenic Chambers - First Descent:
Entrance:
The challenge doesn't trigger correctly, and I don't think it is possible.

Mud backtracking

1N: Mud backtracking

1N1W: Broken. Enter, wait for the room to complete and leave. What I think is the intended solution is neat.

1W: Impossible. You can't clear the NE mud blob with the adder, and you can clear the adder itself without a sword.

Cryogenic Chambers - Second Descent:
Entrance,1N,1N1W: Tar backtracking.

Cryogenic Chambers - Final Descent:
Entrance,1S: Mud backtracking.

1S1E: You don't need to use the sword token.

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Civilization: Added conquer tokens to level entrances that did not require backtracking as well. I feel that it would be silly to have conquer tokens in hub rooms, though, like 1S. The caveat to this is that I couldn't add a conquer token to every level entrance, for example a conquer token near the entrance to the Underground Passageway wouldn't work because it would allow you to skip it.

Speech in Lowe Tech Deck fixed again, this time to trigger after clearing the room and stepping in the south entrance you came from.

Training Base: Actually, the opposite (it won't trigger if you kill the roaches before the Slayers), because the open green door would make it more easy to kill the Slayers and I wanted the focus to be on the oremites.

Imperial Gardens 1S:

Fixed again, this time with a "wait for clean room" after "Wait for door open" and "Wait for entity player" before triggering the speech. I made it intentional to have trapped rock golems depending on how you played out the room, but not for the speech to trigger with them still alive.

1W: Added green door next to weapon token.

City Plumbing System:

Implemented fixes.

The Roots:

I moved the hot tiles to block the entrance to the bridge but am not sure what else to do here, because having the briar move across the room is a central part of the puzzle in this room. At any rate, I don't think the bridge being blocked matters, because the NPC never goes beyond the bridge and the script that gives you dialog still triggers.

So it is 100% intentional that you can solve the room after the path is blocked, because I wanted the focus to be on killing rattlesnakes before the briar traps them.

Nebulous Network:

Removed Sepia filter. I thought it might give a neat old-time look, but I guess I shouldn't use it on puzzle rooms?

Colossal Clasp:

Do you know a good way to implement the request? I am not sure about how to script it if it is possible like you state.

Express Zone Alpha:

Change implemented. I think I shouldn't do this for the Civilization though, because the green door makes stepping on the token mandatory in those cases.

Imperial Barracks:

I believe you should still be able to stab an adder head trapped at (19, 20) by killing the seep first.

King Dugan's Catacombs:

Fixed again, this time by making the tunnel left facing.

Cryogenic Chambers - All Levels:

Backtracking issues fixed, plus impossible and trivial puzzles.

Do you know how to get the script to work in the challenge in First Descent? I don't see any reason why it shouldn't work because I have it organized and phrased in the same way as the other challenges, although weirdly it doesn't work on my end either.

×MyScript Primer and Reference!

My First Hold, also the first published!
Persistence, a mini-hold about returning to rooms.
The Spacetime Kerfluffle, a mini-hold I made once.
Variations, a collab hold I'm managing.
Beethro's Awakening Preview, Zelda and DROD?!

Alphabet Stream info, about my stream thing I do sometimes.