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In Chrome, Shift + Numpad does the same thing as Numpad alone.

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Is Num Lock enabled? If so, disable it. (I have no idea why regular movement works with Num Lock enabled.)

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Jatopian wrote:
Is Num Lock enabled? If so, disable it. (I have no idea why regular movement works with Num Lock enabled.)

That fixed the problem, but it should work anyway. If regular movement works with Num Lock on, so should Shift + (move).

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Trickster wrote:
That fixed the problem, but it should work anyway. If regular movement works with Num Lock on, so should Shift + (move).

You wish . I might try again, but the last time I tried it was simply impossible.

Edit: I remember now, I didn't have numpad before, so I wasn't able to test it empirically, so maybe it is fixable.

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skell wrote:
Edit: I remember now, I didn't have numpad before, so I wasn't able to test it empirically, so maybe it is fixable.

It's okay if it isn't fixable (or if it's too much trouble), but it should be noted in help, command list, and the scroll that mentions Shift+ that Num Lock must be turned off in order for it to work properly.

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I had to do here one of the ugliest hacks in my life (not including anything I did for my normal job).

Tp make it short, Flash Virtual Machine tells the code that Shift was released by the user just before doing Shift+Numpad when numlock is off. After you release last of the Numpad keys it tells the code that Shift is back up. Confused already? Fixed for 1.02

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skell wrote:
I had to do here one of the ugliest hacks in my life (not including anything I did for my normal job).

Tp make it short, Flash Virtual Machine tells the code that Shift was released by the user just before doing Shift+Numpad when numlock is off. After you release last of the Numpad keys it tells the code that Shift is back up. Confused already? Fixed for 1.02

You have had my deepest sympathies from the very beginning for being stuck with Flash, to be honest.

I tried to learn Flash once just to make animations. Jegus, it was complex...I gave up after a couple of days when I realized I'd need to purchase a manual to make progress at a decent rate. I can only imagine what programming for it must be like, and I know it's larger and ungainlier than it should be, as well as extremely insecure (at least if anything re: Jobs' personal war against it was truthful).

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You have had my deepest sympathies from the very beginning for being stuck with Flash, to be honest.

I tried to learn Flash once just to make animations. Jegus, it was complex...I gave up after a couple of days when I realized I'd need to purchase a manual to make progress at a decent rate. I can only imagine what programming for it must be like, and I know it's larger and ungainlier than it should be, as well as extremely insecure (at least if anything re: Jobs' personal war against it was truthful).

Heh, I am afraid I can't agree at all . The language by itself is not difficult, very similar to Java, and pretty advanced - I am talking about coding in Actionscript 3. AS2 was uglier and much more Javascript-like, true. On the other hand, using Flash Authoring Tool is a pain in everywhere, unless you know all the tricks and ways on how to NOT make it crash,

Flash is less insecure than Javascript and Java in all honesty. It has much less access, more restrictive sandbox and, sometimes, it gets to a point where it feels they tried to hard and made it developer unfriendly. I am pretty sure it has been quite some years since last major security bug was available, at least nothing I heard of.

As for Job's personal war, I have only one thing to say - if you have an app store you don't want to give your user access to free applications on the internet. I doubt there was much more to it.

I don't know when you wanted to learn it, but the language has evolved quite a bit and despite its numerous quirks (but seriously, nothing is perfect) it's a pretty fine piece of software.

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I don't know when you wanted to learn it, but the language has evolved quite a bit and despite its numerous quirks (but seriously, nothing is perfect) it's a pretty fine piece of software.

That's encouraging! The last time I looked at it was nearly ten years ago, so I expect it has changed a bit.

I'd probably be more interested in looking at it for making art than programming--I can do all the graphic stuff in Java I need easily enough already. I'll take another peek when I get a chance, probably in a few months.

And I'm not exactly a Jobs-worshiper, so my impression has been similar. I've heard Flash's security questioned by other sources, though. It had numerous vulnerabilities for exploits a few years ago (as recent as 09 or 10), and this has been reported on by a number of tech outlets. I don't know how it's changed since then, though. I don't really keep up-to-date on tech stuff outside the things I use personally.

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