jbluestein
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AlefBet wrote:

jbluestein wrote:
Does the transparent tar and mud mod work on Linux? I have it working on my Windows machine, but not my Linux machine. (And unfortunately, I've hit a room that really wants transparent tar, deep into a hold that I've been playing on a Linux box.)

Yes, it does. In fact, I made my tar mod on Linux.

One thing I noticed was that the files I downloaded had different capitalization: Transparent.bmp and transparent.tim. So one of the things I tried was lowercaseing Transparent.bmp and making sure that the line in drod.ini was lowercase also.

That is significant. It probably would not work with a case problem like that. (Most file systems used under Linux are case sensitive.)

Hmmm...interestingly enough, I note that the drod.ini in .caravel/drod-kdd-2_0 gets rewritten whenever I start DROD, and the General=transparent line is getting removed.

Yes the .ini file is rewritten whenever you run DROD. The fact that the line is removed suggests that it's not understanding your modification for some reason. I suggest checking little things....

[EDIT: Never mind...I figured it out. User error.]

Oh, well. Looks like this response is a day late and a dollar short. I guess I'll post it anyway. Maybe someone else will find it useful.

To clarify the stupid thing I was doing, I'd be sitting there looking at my DROD screen with opaque tar, making my modifications to drod.ini, and when I was done I would save them, exit from DROD and restart it.

Well, it turns out that DROD rewrites the drod.ini file when it exits. So each time I'd make the change, and each time it would just get blindly overwritten.

Much better now.



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Can someone describe what I need to do to get this to work in TCB? Do I follow the same process as before?

Steve.

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Stephen4Louise wrote:
Can someone describe what I need to do to get this to work in TCB? Do I follow the same process as before?

Steve.

Change "General=General" to "General=General;Transparent" or whatever the name of your transparent mod is.

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Isn't it time for a new mod for 3.0? Even if the 2.0 one works, Gel isn't covered...

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the 2.0 one should work - the .tim numbers haven't changed.


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I'll try making one.
EDIT: Here it is. Not to keen on the tim though.
Schik edit: Removed modified Caravel graphics.

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Although I haven't read through the rest of the thread yet, thanks so much to the OP!

If it weren't for this post, I don't think I ever would have finished level 11 of KDD.

Onward!

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File: TCB_cheats.zip (10.7 KB)
Downloaded 276 times.
License: Public Domain

here's a couple 2.0 cheats upgraded to 3.0.

the tarstuff graphics are based on AlefBet's public domain versions, not on caravel graphics.

install.txt in the zip file says how to make the drod.ini changes.

edit: removed an unpleasant grid effect from tarstuff


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You know, my multi-cheat revealing thingy also works for TCB.
It reveals secret and crumbly walls, coloring secrets in yellow and crumblies in blue.

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I am having a lot of trouble trying to install silver's transparent tar.

First, I close DROD TCB then, I edit the .ini file and change

General=Genral;transparenttar

Then I add the

transparenttar= transparenttar

Right underneath it.
But then when I open DROD again, and click 'continue game' and, it doesn't work. I'm finally getting around to adding this, but it's not working!

What am I doing wrong?

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I recommend spelling "General" correctly. Also, the transparenttar=transparenttar line in unnecessary for a GeneralTiles mod.

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Did you put all the pictures in Bitmaps?

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tokyokid wrote:

General=Genral;transparenttar

but the instructions say:

General=GeneralTiles;transparenttar
            ^  ^^^^^

though you could've just used copy/paste


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Oh, duh. Spelling.

But where is the bitmaps folder! I'm obviously not good at computers.

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in the data folder

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the Data folder which contains drod.ini should also contain a folder called Bitmaps which has some title screens for the game in it. so you copy the .png files into there.


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tokyokid wrote:
Oh, duh. Spelling.

But where is the bitmaps folder! I'm obviously not good at computers.

You are using a mac, right? ctrl-click on DROD-TCB and click Show Package Contents. Go then to Contents-Resources-Data-Bitmaps.

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Yes, thanks Jason, that's just what I needed! Finally I can see through tar!

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Edit: I'm a spaz, I say that, then I fix the problem (I hadn't taken them out of the file they were extracted to!) seconds after I post it.

... The H&S effect has broken loose and is taking over the forum! Run!

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*bump*ish

Just wondering:
Are there any plans to extend this mod to include transparent gel? I haven't found a mod which also does this. Should hopefully be easy to adapt but I've got no artist skills to speak of, let alone dithering gfx software...

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You might be interested in this thread.

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Thanks for that but I was just looking for the TCB version of the JtRH mod I'd been using for a while... My patience for creating art is non-existant.

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There's a transparent gel mod somewhere, because I have one. Unfortunately it means that I can't see tarstuff from the restore screen, so we could benefit from a new one.

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I also have a tarstuff mod with all three types from _somewhere_.

It's within a file called "TCB_cheats.zip", along with a separate modification to make crumby walls more visible. The last modified date for the files is 19th April 2007. Have fun searching... because I don't remember where it is on the forum.

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Thanks guys. I have the crumbly wall mod (concentric circles for certain types of crumbly wall), but can't seem to find the gel mod. I'll keep looking

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Syntax wrote:
Thanks for that but I was just looking for the TCB version of the JtRH mod I'd been using for a while... My patience for creating art is non-existant.

I'm not entirely sure the point was clear, but maybe I'm misunderstanding. The thread I linked to *is* a Transparency Mod, and doesn't require extra artwork: you just install it exactly the same as any other mod (unzip it to bitmaps directory, add a line to the INI). It has a different graphical style as a result and may not be to your taste, but it's certainly a complete TCB Tar/Mud/Gel transparency mod.

EDIT: Oh, and TCB_cheats.zip is in this very thread. Look for silver's post.

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Absolutely right. I scanned for attachments and missed the first post. Thanks

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Well yeah the mod looked really good until it stuffed my drod, the mod made drod ruin itself and i have just lost all of my holds and progress on all my holds, i mod you down!

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A graphical mod cannot affect DROD in any way, shape, or form. Maybe you should report exactly what happen on the Bugs board so that we can try and find out what went wrong and maybe recover your data (if you haven't deleted DROD already).

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deftriver wrote:
So is it me, my computer, or the file?

Why don't you give us specific examples of the files you're using, where you placed them, and what your drod.ini looks like. Otherwise, how can we troubleshoot this?

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