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Stuck in JtRH, and Hints board broken (+1)

Hello. Just bought JTRH, and am having a blast. However, I am stuck on Level 6, Twice North. I can't reach the queens before they reach the corner. I am reaching the potion as fast as possible, but they still get there. Is anyone having a similar problem?

04-04-2005 at 11:15 PM

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I'll move this over once the board is fixed. In the meantime...

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04-04-2005 at 11:21 PM

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billbuckner wrote:
Hello. Just bought JTRH, and am having a blast. However, I am stuck on Level 6, Twice North. I can't reach the queens before they reach the corner. I am reaching the potion as fast as possible, but they still get there. Is anyone having a similar problem?

Seventh Level, right?

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04-04-2005 at 11:21 PM

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I was just about to make something like this myself! I'm stuck on level 9, 1S1E. Here's my reasoning so far:

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04-04-2005 at 11:26 PM

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04-04-2005 at 11:35 PM

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04-04-2005 at 11:42 PM

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Ah. Problem solved! I stupidly assumed it was the wall blocking the eye's line of sight when it was really the orb... *d'oh* Thanks!

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04-04-2005 at 11:45 PM

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Fafnir wrote:
I was just about to make something like this myself! I'm stuck on level 9, 1S1E. Here's my reasoning so far:

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×You need to use both mimic potions to complete the room. One mimic potion can only be accessed by hitting the orb on the right, which in turn requires a mimic to get to. Therefore, you have to do the section with the roach queen before the section with the evil eyes and roaches.

You have to trip the trapdoor to get at the second potion, which means that you are effectively constrained to a 3x3 room to defeat all the enemies in the other (far larger) section by mimic. The mimic must be able to access an orb in the top-left corner of that section. There is also an evil eye that Beethro can't seem to wake up in the middle of the right side. The two are far too far apart for it to be possible to move the mimic between them, and so the room is impossible without a third mimic potion or a way to get into that section.

This is clearly false, so what am I missing?

Thanks!

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this is a spoiler:

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I'm want to know if there is an easy way to do level 12 1N?
I'm just slashing and killing... :blowup

Ow I just hate that stupid tar!!!

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04-04-2005 at 11:46 PM

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robin wrote:
I'm want to know if there is an easy way to do level 12 1N?
I'm just slashing and killing

You mostly need to be aware of what tar shapes you will be unable to ultimately remove. Basically it's a question of when to kill the tar mothers. Unfortunately I don't have a specific solution for you...maybe someone else has something more than trial and error...

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04-04-2005 at 11:50 PM

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robin wrote:
I'm want to know if there is an easy way to do level 12 1N?
I'm just slashing and killing...
Ow I just hate that stupid tar!!!

Some slashing is inevitable, but...

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04-04-2005 at 11:51 PM

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agaricus5 wrote:

Some slashing is inevitable, but...

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×...what is mass-producing the tar? Can it be stopped quickly?

That was a little bit my question,

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04-04-2005 at 11:57 PM

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I still can't do L7 2N - even if the roaches weren't there I can't reach the potion in time. I can see what has to be done, but I can't do it in time.

It takes 13 moves for the queen to get right into the corner where I can't reach herm and 13 moes for me to reach the potion, even without having to kill a roach on the way.

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[Edited by wackhead_uk at Local Time:04-05-2005 at 12:33 AM]

04-05-2005 at 12:24 AM

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wackhead_uk wrote:
I still can't do L7 2N - even if the roaches weren't there I can't reach the potion in time. I can see what has to be done, but I can't do it in time.

To be more explicit...

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04-05-2005 at 12:33 AM

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robin wrote:
That was a little bit my question,

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×how quickly can I stop it?

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04-05-2005 at 12:36 AM

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agaricus5 wrote:

robin wrote:
That was a little bit my question,

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×how quickly can I stop it?

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×In under 50 moves.

Thanks, I'll try it.

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[Edited by robin at Local Time:04-05-2005 at 12:42 AM]

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04-05-2005 at 12:39 AM

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I must say, I am loving this hold! However I'm stuck on L12: 2N, 1E

The second tunnel passage and voyage is getting me stuck. Either way, the mimic will get stuck on the force arrow once I traverse right. Any Hints?

04-05-2005 at 12:40 AM

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robin wrote:

agaricus5 wrote:

robin wrote:
That was a little bit my question,

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×how quickly can I stop it?

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×In under 50 moves.

Thanks, I'll try it.

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×but then there is only 1 spawn?

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04-05-2005 at 12:45 AM

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agaricus5 wrote:

robin wrote:

agaricus5 wrote:

robin wrote:
That was a little bit my question,

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×how quickly can I stop it?

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×In under 50 moves.

Thanks, I'll try it.

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×but then there is only 1 spawn?

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×Yes; I can complete the room in several ways with only one spawn, although you only really need to get below 60 in order to do it like that.

son of a... , is it that easy.
thank you very much, why didn't I see it like this.
I did it by the way :thumbsup

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04-05-2005 at 12:52 AM

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I'm stuck in Level 8: 4S 2E. It's the completely easy room with a billion snakes but it's nearly impossible because I always get stuck with one snake who wants to shove his face in a corner and never come out. I've tried it 10 times, moving all over to "direct" them but one or two snakes always give up and refuse to break their paths. This sort of randomness pisses me off. :thumbsdown

04-05-2005 at 01:45 AM

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Stuwy wrote:
I must say, I am loving this hold! However I'm stuck on L12: 2N, 1E

The second tunnel passage and voyage is getting me stuck. Either way, the mimic will get stuck on the force arrow once I traverse right. Any Hints?

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04-05-2005 at 01:45 AM

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I'm stuck in Level 8: 4S 2E. It's the completely easy room with a billion snakes but it's nearly impossible because I always get stuck with one snake who wants to shove his face in a corner and never come out. I've tried it 10 times, moving all over to "direct" them but one or two snakes always give up and refuse to break their paths. This sort of randomness pisses me off.

I always solved this room in a very unorthodox way:

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I don't think it's changed since the last time I played the room, but I haven't gotten there on the full version yet so I can't say for sure.

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04-05-2005 at 01:59 AM

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BigRedCat wrote:
I'm stuck in Level 8: 4S 2E. It's the completely easy room with a billion snakes but it's nearly impossible because I always get stuck with one snake who wants to shove his face in a corner and never come out. I've tried it 10 times, moving all over to "direct" them but one or two snakes always give up and refuse to break their paths. This sort of randomness pisses me off.

I always solved this room in a very unorthodox way:

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×No orbs were struck at all until all the serpents were dead.

I don't think it's changed since the last time I played the room, but I haven't gotten there on the full version yet so I can't say for sure.

Game on,

I just tried this but the snakes never break pattern and I don't see how this is possible.

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[Edited by BigRedCat at Local Time:04-05-2005 at 02:12 AM]

04-05-2005 at 02:04 AM

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I'll send you a PM.

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04-05-2005 at 02:07 AM

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I still can't do that room...I can't get to the potion without the queens being right in the corners, where I can't reach them without getting stuck. I can see where they are supposed to be when you get the potion, but it takes the same number of mvoes for me to get to the potion as it does for the left queen to get into the corner.

04-05-2005 at 12:46 PM

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wackhead_uk wrote:
I still can't do that room...I can't get to the potion without the queens being right in the corners, where I can't reach them without getting stuck. I can see where they are supposed to be when you get the potion, but it takes the same number of mvoes for me to get to the potion as it does for the left queen to get into the corner.

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04-05-2005 at 12:52 PM

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Spoiler:

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EDIT: Gah - agaricus got there before me. Oh well.

[Edited by krammer at Local Time:04-05-2005 at 12:53 PM]

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04-05-2005 at 12:52 PM

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Ah. I thought I'd tried all directions. Thanks for helping. It was jut getting the potion - the arrows thing was pretty obvious, I thought.

04-05-2005 at 01:01 PM

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Hints and Solutions board is now able to take generic hint requests until Schik gets the room images working again. Locking this thread since I can't split it up and moving it to the H&S board.

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04-05-2005 at 05:20 PM

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