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I can't get the topmost plate get pressed; at final (right) gap, wraithwing follows me one step south-east and the roach goes south to the vertical gap instead of going east. (It worked with two first plates...) Is there another way?

04-08-2012 at 08:04 AM
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04-08-2012 at 08:21 AM
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Hmmm...
I'm using the same roach - fist "free" roach for all. To open north trapdoor I guide the roach to the west plate while I use wraithwing to block (i kill the trapped roach). And then i guide the roach to the eastern path to open south trapdoor (I kill the trapped roach)...
I can't see how i can use other roach... does not every roach move the same way?

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But I don't know why :)

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04-08-2012 at 09:16 AM
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I can't even get the roach onto the plate at all!
I'm assuming I need to get the WW lined up between Gunthro and the plate ... I just can't get enough space between the roach and Gunthro to make it work. Or have I missed something?

05-04-2012 at 05:18 PM
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I think you have.

The wraithwing needs to be postioned...
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The space between you and the roach...
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Notice the different coloured floor tiles (the ones not part of the chequerboard)... they have been put there for a reason.

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05-05-2012 at 05:22 AM
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Phew! Got it! I now know more about WW movement than I ever wanted to. Kinda like parallel parking without mirrors ... :)
05-05-2012 at 03:45 PM
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wish I had even a clue on how to START this level...
I know I need to get the roach on one of the plates, but I've been completely unable to... any advice? even as to what order I should attempt to try these?


05-08-2012 at 09:41 PM
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It's easy if you try.

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05-08-2012 at 10:18 PM
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Ivcha Pivcha wrote:
It's easy if you try.

it took a few attempts, but finally I got it...
Seems like I figure levels out as soon as I post asking for help...
05-08-2012 at 11:09 PM
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I'm hoping posting will do the trick for me. I hate wraithwings as I can never get them to do what I want. I have noticed the tiles but have no clue how to get the ww between gunthro and the roach. Help please!!! I'm desperate and I have been trying for hours and haven't come close to opening a single trapdoor!! :weep
07-08-2012 at 01:52 PM
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The basic shuffle for moving a single Wraithwing sideways (when it's at 5 away and directly in front) is to move backwards diagonally and when you get to the target row/column, you push it straight forward. The post two above yours has a demo attached that will show you exactly how this works for the first section of this room, as well as the final little move that gets the Wraithwing on the blocking squares.
07-08-2012 at 03:16 PM
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Thanks, I hadn't noticed the demo. Seeing the first bit made it easy to work out the other three wraiths. I can move on at last. :thumbsup
07-08-2012 at 11:24 PM
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Any tips on getting a roach on the northern plate? I'm having the same problem as the OP -- the fact that the roach moves before the wraithwing in this scenario makes it seem that I need a different manipulation to the other pressure plates.

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If the hints aren't helping, try downloading the demo attached to the 8th post in this thread.
07-16-2013 at 07:58 PM
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I did but the demo only shows it up to the point of killing the first roach (to the west), not the whole room. The same strategy does not appear to work for the north pressure plate.

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Here is a full demo.

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07-16-2013 at 09:16 PM
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Thanks! Strange that if you use a different roach then it's impossible to get it on to a different pressure plate. That is strange, I wonder why that is.

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07-17-2013 at 08:54 PM
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Movement order shouldn't matter. The target square for the wraithwing can be reached without reference to it.
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That feature makes asci-diagrams so much easier to draw and understand :)

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navithmastero wrote:
Here is a full demo.

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Call me stupid but I don't see any demo, both when logged out and logged in
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Oh, now I see it. Leaving it to future readers as yet another exercise in Caravel's puzzles, as well as finding "Reply without quote" button.
08-26-2022 at 11:33 PM
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