paxbellum
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i'd just like to make a suggestion to the creators of drod

i think that the creators of drod should contact sony and see if you can make it avalible for download on the playstation store

i know it sounds silly one might say "how meny people will want to play a low graphic game like drod on a ps3?" but they have sudoku avalible and lots of people are buying it so i figure why not drod?

and it will defenatly make more money for you creators...cuse a lot of people are system gamers and not computer...so it will open that up to a new audience

anyway, i just thought that that would be a neat idea...tell me what you think of it

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I'm afraid it isn't as easy as you may think it is to get a game on a console.

First of all, you'll need a development kit for said console, which is quite expensive usually.

Second, you'll have to port the game to the console. That means you'll have to make do with a joypad, for one thing, and rewrite all platform-specific parts for the console.

Then you'll have to negotiate with Sony to get the game into the store. Probably not much fun either.

I'd hazard a guess it'd be much easier and quicker to simply install Linux on your PS3 and try to get DROD to compile for that...

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yeah...i figurd that it would take a lot of repograming and stuff. and negotiating with sony is an obvious problum im just saying if you were able to do those things its a good way for you guys to sit on a small fortune and hay, a world whare more people play drod is one that i wanna live in

anyway, i just thoght i'd sugest...I'm probly gonna put linux on my ps3 eventually anyway

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Then if Linux goes on there, you should be able to play the linux version of DROD on there.

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calamarain wrote:
Then if Linux goes on there, you should be able to play the linux version of DROD on there.

Well, Linux has been on the PS3 for some time now and it's both supported by Sony as well as the Linux kernel developers.

But of course this isn't as easy as just downloading the Linux version of DROD from the site since that will only run on x86 CPUs. At least a recompile from source is in order, and that will of course leave the result without CaravelNet functionality...

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well, since i have no idea how to do that i'm gonna go ahead and put a chalenge out to all programmers

operation: getdrodonps3

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Heh, heh. Sorry, I can't afford the $20K PS3 dev kit. I'm going to pass on this one for now.

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no,no i mean getting drod on the linux thats compatible with ps3
(sorry i have a tendancy to change subjects without prior notice)

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paxbellum wrote:
no,no i mean getting drod on the linux thats compatible with ps3
(sorry i have a tendancy to change subjects without prior notice)

DROD is already on Linux. I don't know about this myself, but one should be able to just run the DROD Linux app on a Linux OS on the PS3, right?

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mrimer wrote:
I don't know about this myself, but one should be able to just run the DROD Linux app on a Linux OS on the PS3, right?

As long as it's cross-compiled for IBM's POWER CPU architecture and not an x86 binary - probably...

Otherwise it'll run as good as it'll run on my NSLU2's ARM CPU - i.e. not at all...

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okay I got yellowdog linux up and running on my ps3, then downloaded the linux x86 vertion of arcitects edition and,as Briareos predicted, it did not work.

The ps3 has ppc procesors. Anyone know how to make DROD compatible with ppc linux?

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anyone? Briareos, you seem to know what your talking about, how do i "recompile from sorce code"?

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Here's an easyily followed step-by-step checklist:

0) install a basic build environment (GCC, binutils et al)
1) master programming in C++
2) check out/download the code and unpack it
3) check out/download, unpack and set up all build dependencies
4) master using those libraries
5) port those libraries that aren't available for the PS3 yet
6) build those libraries
7) finally run make in the DROD folder
8) see where it breaks
9) fix the compile errors that crop up
10) repeat from step 7 until everything compiles
11) run the resulting executable
12) see where it crashes
13) debug, trace and fix the bug
14) continue from step 7
15) play the game
16) see what other bugs there are
17) fix those bugs
18) back to step 7
19) distribute the mostly-working binaries and source
20) get bug reports
21) fix those bugs
22) step 7, I'm afraid
23) play the game
24) ...
25) NO PROFIT!

Sorry, but that's the hard truth, I'm afraid...

(BTW - did I miss anything important or obvious? )

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ah. i see. well...i dont suppose you can do that for me? lol.

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i don't mean to appear obsessive but i just heard about this new programm that will allow one operating systum run on top of another.
has anyone else heard of this? if you have, do you think i'd be able to run windows on top of yellow dog and drod on windows?

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Are you referring to Wine, the Windows emulator for Linux?

Well, I've heard about how Windows can run on MS-DOS too.

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paxbellum wrote:
has anyone else heard of this?

Yes, it's called a Virtual Machine. Something like Wine would only help if the processor were the same, which it isn't.

if you have, do you think i'd be able to run windows on top of yellow dog and drod on windows?

If you could live with running Windows at glacial speed - maybe. But what's the point? If the Playstation 3 has to emulate a whole x86 system in software you'd be longing for that 100MHz 486 CPU I just threw out...

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If you could live with running Windows at glacial speed - maybe. But what's the point? If the Playstation 3 has to emulate a whole x86 system in software you'd be longing for that 100MHz 486 CPU I just threw out...

lol, your computer speak is outta this world lol.
well, i think I'll give vertual machene a try,and see what happens
I'll let you guys know how it turns out

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Technically, Wine isn't an emulator, hence the name: Wine Is Not an Emulator. It's just a compatibility layer for the API, so it only has to process system calls rather than every single machine code instruction. That translates to a much lower performance hit. But yeah, as Briareos said, the only reason that works is because the CPU architecture is the same - on a PS3 you'd be looking at full emulation, which is going to fail horribly.

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