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OK, will stop here. But I'm finishing with an *uberpuzzle*. Rather a hard one :) If you can solve this, you're either a brilliant reasoning genius... or have read the same book I took this from ;)

Remember the rules - Angels always tell the truth, demons always lie and mortals can do either.

There was once a group of three inhabitants of this world, named Andra, Bravi and Comus. One was mortal, one was an angel, one was a demon. The mortal had stolen a priceless relic from the temple.

A judge (who happened to be a logician) had all three of them in court. Each of the three was asked to make a statement.

Andra either said "Comus is a demon" or "Comus is the thief", but we do not know which.

Bravi said one of "Andra is an angel", "Andra is a demon", or "Andra is the thief" but again, we do not know which.

Comus said one of "Bravi is a demon", "Bravi is the thief", or "Bravi is an angel" but again we don't know which.

The judge, upon hearing the three statements knew which one was the thief and sentenced him to listen to nothing but Celine Dion for the next thousand years (punishments up there are harsh!)

All the above information was given to another logician. He worked on it for a while, and concluded that there wasn't enough information to solve the problem.

He was then told which statement Andra actually made and he was able to deduce who the thief was.

So your question is this. Who is the thief? (assume both logician and judge are perfect reasoners and don't make mistakes)

If no-one can solve this, then the answer will be posted on request :)

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09-23-2007 at 10:08 AM
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Just to clarify, by virtue of listening first-hand in court, the judge does know which statement each of the three suspects made. But we don't know, and the second logician doesn't know (until told). Is that correct?
09-23-2007 at 10:39 AM
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CuriousShyRabbit wrote:
Just to clarify, by virtue of listening first-hand in court, the judge does know which statement each of the three suspects made.
Yep, the judge knows who's said what.

But we don't know, and the second logician doesn't know (until told). Is that correct?
Yep. We don't know which statements were made, and nor did the logician. He was then told what Andra said, and only what Andra said.

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09-23-2007 at 11:07 AM
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Done. Didn't actually take as long as it does on first look.

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Your answer is correct :) But...
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