Syntax
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Not sure whether to post this in Holds or Bugs, but I guess this is the place to report which need updating due to engine changes...

Anyways, "The Secret of the Slayer: Wraithwing Lair: 1N1E" can't be completed in 3.1 as winged player roles no longer trip pressure pads... I can't actually see an alternative solution either. There is a goblin there, but the space is too tight to really manipulate him onto the switch with a Wraithwing character (at least not without dying :p).

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This should probably be in the thread for The Secret of the Slayer, so he can do that ASAP.

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I'd suggest moving the pressure plate one square east. Then, you could lead the free goblin onto it.

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VIPCOOL wrote:
Is it ok if I change a few unintended solutions?

That's usually frowned apon. This means that everybody who has a score on that room must play it again, no matter what their solution was.

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Rheb asked the same question a few days ago in his Troshian Tower thread, and people said NO, quite emphatically....

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Seriously though... the engine's changed, the rules have changed. Banjooie would have a field day. Point is, I love this hold... have been playing it for a few days and now it's impossible to continue. I believe therefore it should be fixed.

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Syntax wrote:
Seriously though... the engine's changed, the rules have changed. Banjooie would have a field day. Point is, I love this hold... have been playing it for a few days and now it's impossible to continue. I believe therefore it should be fixed.

I don't actually think that the rules have changed, unless you're talking about from the old laissez-faire method to the current one.

Changes to fix unintended solutions aren't allowed. Changes to fix rooms broken by engine changes are (for some value of 'broken' -- but if the room totally doesn't work with an engine change, an update to that room would be allowed, I think).

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Hey?! Where do you get 3.1 ? It says: 89% done. ??????

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Check this out. I had the same question.

EDIT: post collision!

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Syntax
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jbluestein wrote:
Changes to fix unintended solutions aren't allowed. Changes to fix rooms broken by engine changes are (for some value of 'broken' -- but if the room totally doesn't work with an engine change, an update to that room would be allowed, I think).

Totally agreed... This is an engine change though which renders the room impossible and the room should therefore be updated to match the new rules...

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IMO, this hold should be changed either as 3.1 patch gets released or in time for that event. Looking at the room (and I believe someone else mentioned this in another thread) a solution would be to move the switch one square to the right...

We can then discuss at which point is should be released...

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Now that 3.1 is out, it's time to update this hold. Notice that VIPCOOL has already attached a fixed version of the hold to the 9th post in this thread.

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CuriousShyRabbit wrote:
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Now that 3.1 is out, it's time to update this hold. Notice that VIPCOOL has already attached a fixed version of the hold to the 9th post in this thread.

Thanks, CSR. I've started a topic on the HA board that will hopefully address this.

Josh

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